I know it's all conjecture, but general soreness, is well, generally lame.
No! The Reds would never risk losing games to boost a few thousand ticket sales.
Yes. Word came from up top he is not to play. And Dusty ain't happy about it.
Eh, he is in fact sore, but they ain't rushing to put him back in the lineup (wink.)
Griffey himself want to hit it at home.
I know it's all conjecture, but general soreness, is well, generally lame.
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I doubt it, JR doesn't seem the type to do such shenanigans.
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I think he's probably been in need of a break for a while now, but the Reds didn't want to sit him at home given his proximity to 600. It's not so much that they're benching him now to avoid hitting #600 on the road but that he pushed himself a bit to try and get it at home and is now paying the price.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
I chose Choice #1, but I think there is some element of truth to #3 (without the winks).
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Lame eh?
The man is made out of tissue paper and spit and he still can't sit out a few games in his late 30's without questions.
Cracks me up.
What do you want with a report like "general soreness." I expect a player in his late 30's to be generally sore every game of the year an need rest on occasion. Why THESE games in a bandbox like Philly? Of course questions will come up...Originally Posted by westofyou
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I would normally be inclined to say yes, but in this case, no. Griffey hit 500 in STL and has openly said that he doesn't care where he hits it. I take him at face value on that.
I think Jr is legitimately sore. Of course, they aren't being specific. Maybe his legs are a bit sore and they just want to rest him for awhile.
Dusty did make a comment saying that they hoped by resting him a day or two, it might prevent having to sit Jr for 12 days down the road. Seems to me to be a minor injury and they are playing it cautious. I don't think Dusty would lie about an injury. If Jr was 100%, I doubt Dusty doesn't play him for the sake of some milestone at home.
Considering how little the Reds have hyped #600, I doubt there is a sinister motive.
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I'm not sure I would guess that the first option is probably the best option.
Sore? What is that? If I came in and told my high school coach a couple years ago that I couldn't play because I was sore he would laugh at me and tell me to go home... Why is it different for Major league ballplayers? I hear my dad talk about it all the time, Pete Rose or Joe Morgan would've never sat out because of something like this, you think Cal Ripken Jr was ever sore?
Don't get me wrong, I love Griffey, he is one of my all-time favorite players. However, I do feel there is something else deterring him from not playing (600) and that is a different argument to itself....
He's a 38 year old professional player, and asset and you are using your high school career as a comp?
Ok.
Pete Rose and Cal Ripken are anomalies, using them as a barometer for normalcy is a false reality to further your argument.
Joe Morgan played 21 seasons and topped 150 game exactly 4 times (only once after age 29) for a grand total of 19% of his career, Junior has done that 6 times in his career.
I agree with everything you just said.... I am simply saying if he is being held out for being hurt, fine... being sore, that's crap... for hitting 600 somewhere else, that is ridiculous!
I am talking about the fact that he is diagnosed with "soreness". I don't have a clue as to what that means, maybe sitting at one game, but 3??? I don't buy it...
I don't think the line between sore and injured is really that black and white. He's old. His body is breaking down. He has to be paced for a 162 game season and likely pushed himself on the home-stand to try and get #600 there.
Would it accomplish anything to say that his legs are weak? Is that an injury? How about having your hamstrings bolted to your femur?
We also need to consider the newly reinforced limits thanks to HIPAA. Getting medical information is quite difficult, especially if there are no actual medical procedures being performed to treat it.
I don't mean to give Junior a free pass, but I think the idea that he's being held out for the purpose of hitting #600 at home a bit conspiracy theroyish and the insistence on getting a full description of his medical condition a bit presumptuous.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
HIPAA privacy rules mean that clubs cannot release health info about their players unless the players agree to it.
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Ken Griffey Jr had 44 c.c.'s of fluid drained from his knee. He received a cortisone shot a couple of days ago.
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Why even speculate when we just don't know.
Marty said during last night's broadcast that his knee(s) is still sore. That could be legitimate... his knee has screws in it, doesn't it? That's reason enough to take his being "sore" a bit more seriously than someone who is otherwise healthy.
I'm sure if your tendons were attached to the bone by screws that your highschool coach would have cut you some slack.
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