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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    I like Cueto--I think he can eventually be a nice Javier Vazquez/Aaron Harang type anchor (that is, a very valuable arm), but Volquez represents a pitcher the likes of which I have never, ever seen in a Reds' uniform. All due respect, but Soto doesn't come close. Nope: not even Rijo. This kid is starting to blow my mind. What a joy to watch that game tonight. (And I'm not even drunk).

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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    Times are a changing. Against the NL's hottest offense in a hitters park, the Reds ran out three guys that combine on a 2-hit shutout.

    ERA's, K/9 IP

    1.32, 10.9
    2.74, 7.9
    2.01, 10.7

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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Well, Dusty lost another one.....

    Oh wait. We won. Shut out the NL's best offense.
    You called it. While the Reds were being no hit.

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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    I like Cueto--I think he can eventually be a nice Javier Vazquez/Aaron Harang type anchor (that is, a very valuable arm), but Volquez represents a pitcher the likes of which I have never, ever seen in a Reds' uniform. All due respect, but Soto doesn't come close. Nope: not even Rijo. This kid is starting to blow my mind. What a joy to watch that game tonight. (And I'm not even drunk).
    We have to think that Volquez is really something special.

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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    Quote Originally Posted by oregonred View Post
    Chance to break open a close game against a hot team and one that you desperately need to win to avoid a possible 4-game sweep on the road. Why carry three catchers on the roster then?

    It probably works out but going into the ninth up 4-0 or more sure would make more sense.

    Exactly.

    Add letting Cordero swing away and Dusty made three questionable (if not horrible) decisions late in this game.

    I don't know why that is hard to see unless one hasn't been paying attention or is just trying to be a contrarian.

    If this isn't baseball 101 there isn't such thing and the manager can never be questioned.

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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    You called it. While the Reds were being no hit.
    You shut out Philly through 7, I'll take my chances.

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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    The Reds have gone toe to toe with the Phillies in all 3 of these games. Hopefully they can win tomorrow and get the split.
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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    I like Cueto--I think he can eventually be a nice Javier Vazquez/Aaron Harang type anchor (that is, a very valuable arm), but Volquez represents a pitcher the likes of which I have never, ever seen in a Reds' uniform. All due respect, but Soto doesn't come close. Nope: not even Rijo. This kid is starting to blow my mind. What a joy to watch that game tonight. (And I'm not even drunk).
    Nice post.
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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    So far the Reds pitching, even given Arroyo's less than good start, has held the powerhouse Phillies to 8 runs in 3 games. The team that was averaging -what? 10 runs a game recently? Volquez is just amazing but let's not forget how well Harang pitched last night, either, or how the pen has been coming through. The pitching staff is coming together.

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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    The Reds have held the Phillies to eight runs in three games. With just a little more offense the Reds could be going for the sweep tomorrow. Or at worst three of four.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    If Griffey stay out longer, I think Votto should hit second. Votto hits lower in order because he is young and Baker doesn't want to put too much pressure on him. But it's time for Votto to move up, he's a terrific hitter.
    Votto hits low in the order because Dusty sees that he has power and not a ton of speed. That makes him an "RBI guy" and "RBI guy"s hit down in the order.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    I like Cueto--I think he can eventually be a nice Javier Vazquez/Aaron Harang type anchor (that is, a very valuable arm), but Volquez represents a pitcher the likes of which I have never, ever seen in a Reds' uniform. All due respect, but Soto doesn't come close. Nope: not even Rijo. This kid is starting to blow my mind. What a joy to watch that game tonight. (And I'm not even drunk).
    This was a baseball game for people who love baseball.

    And Volquez is amazing -- he's on a different level right now.
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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    I will take credit for this win. I switched over to the "away" redszone background to change their luck. You all can thank me later...or send money.
    Benzinger backing and calling! And the 1990 world championship series belongs to the Cincinnati Reds!

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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    I like Cueto--I think he can eventually be a nice Javier Vazquez/Aaron Harang type anchor (that is, a very valuable arm), but Volquez represents a pitcher the likes of which I have never, ever seen in a Reds' uniform. All due respect, but Soto doesn't come close. Nope: not even Rijo. This kid is starting to blow my mind. What a joy to watch that game tonight. (And I'm not even drunk).
    Agree with you on this FCB, with regard to Volquez. And I hope Cueto is someday in the Vazquez/Harang class. That would be most excellent.

    But Volquez? I agree, I have never seen anything like this from a Reds pitcher. And that includes 1982 Mario Soto.

    12 straight games, two earned runs or less. Major league record is 14. Chew on that for a moment or three.

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    Re: Reds @ Phillies 6/4/08

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    Add letting Cordero swing away and Dusty made three questionable (if not horrible) decisions late in this game.
    Letting Cordero strike out and hoping Hairston can get a hit is likely not going to get you any runs.

    I think he should swing away considering the next hitter. He'slikley to strike out anyway. He hit the ball very hard, almost has a single up the middle. But just accepting a sure K would be against the odds.


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