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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    I think Buchholz is going to shock some people here. As in good shock. Valaika isn't going to stick at SS, imo. He may start there and move to 2nd when BP's contract is up which will be just about the time Buchholz is ready. And if Neftali Soto doesn't outgrow the position, which is possible, his bat will be better than either in time. Rumblings about Juan Francisco working hard on discipline and recognizing he needs to imrpove there have me more optimistic about him. Then there's Juan Duran who nobody has any kind of read on yet beyond his scouting reports which are phenomenal. My point is there are lots of scenarios and players in the mix -no way you look three years down the road and say oh we'll need a RH bat more than a lefty so lets draft a RHer.

    That's crazy imo. Alonso has the best approach to have success at the next level of all the main picks, imo, except Alvarez. I would have been happy with Beckham, too, or Smoak. But I guarantee you if either had been the pick people would be posting what a dumb decision it was. "One year wonder" would have been heard.

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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    I think we have a good problem brewing around here with the competition and depth in the farm system.
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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    Quote Originally Posted by NorrisHopper30 View Post
    I think we have a good problem brewing around here with the competition and depth in the farm system.
    Jocketty has always been good at trading depth for established big-league talent. Hopefully he can work his magic, because the team is devoid of good help straight up the middle (C, SS, CF) being ready within the next 2 or 3 years.
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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Jocketty has always been good at trading depth for established big-league talent. Hopefully he can work his magic, because the team is devoid of good help straight up the middle (C, SS, CF) being ready within the next 2 or 3 years.
    The question is will he do it this year, or next.
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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    I thought I read somewhere here lately that Beckham had a .900+ ops the year before this last one also and he tore it up at the Cape Cod league. If that's so then he isn't a 1 year wonder, if I'm wrong then I guess he isn't as good as I thought.
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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    I am just happy that he is able to play 3rd Base... I like Votto at 1st and Dunn in LEFT, hoping they sign Adam Dunn to a LTC...

    But all in all... I just hope he works out...

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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Hondo View Post
    I am just happy that he is able to play 3rd Base... I like Votto at 1st and Dunn in LEFT, hoping they sign Adam Dunn to a LTC...

    But all in all... I just hope he works out...
    He's not really able to play 3rd. 1B is about it for him.
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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    Anyone think he could possibly learn to play catcher? It was int he article.

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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    Quote Originally Posted by druwhall View Post
    Anyone think he could possibly learn to play catcher? It was int he article.
    I heard 3B, C, 1B are all potential positions. I don't see him being a 3B unless he loses a lot of weight, but it'd be nice to see him try C out (even though I have faith in Mesoraco).
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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    Any changing of positions would just slow his pace to the majors, IMO. He is a first baseman, and thats it.
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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    Personally, I'm fine with this pick as I see his debut coming in September of 2009 as the REDS are in their first of a string of many pennant races.

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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    For whatever it's worth - Baseball Prospectus Rany Jazayerli did a study a couple of years ago that said basically if you have to narrow it down between college bats, college first baseman are by far the safest when making 1st round picks of all the positions available.

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    Draft Rule #12: College first basemen are the most valuable group of draft picks by an enormous margin. College first basemen selected in the first round have gone on to have Hall of Fame-caliber careers approximately one-third of the time.

    Over the course of the entire draft study, college first basemen have returned a ridiculous +144% in draft value. Thirteen first basemen were selected in the first 30 picks between 1984 and 1999, including Frank Thomas, Mark McGwire, Will Clark, Todd Helton, and Lance Berkman. John Olerud was a first-round talent who slipped to the third round because he was considered a tough sign.

    Draft Rule #13: Among college hitters, after first basemen there is almost no difference between the other infield positions, including catcher. Collegiate outfielders trail all other positions by a significant margin, probably because of an overemphasis on “tools” guys with great athleticism but underdeveloped bats.

    Here’s the chart for college position players:

    1984 – 1999 1992 - 1999
    Pos Overall Pos Overall

    COL 1B +155.3% COL 1B +113.1%
    COL 2B + 41.0% COL 2B + 55.6%
    COL SS + 37.9% COL 3B + 55.2%
    COL 3B + 24.4% COL C + 49.8%
    COL C + 12.5% COL SS + 45.1%
    COL OF + 12.5% COL OF - 5.3%

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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    Quote Originally Posted by NorrisHopper30 View Post
    I think we have a good problem brewing around here with the competition and depth in the farm system.

    perfectly put , competition breeds success and Alonso's bat seems like its a non risk choice. yes and oh do i remember the vitriol spit out on draft day over the choice of high school picks like Homer and Jay Bruce.
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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    Does Alonso have the same agent as Adam Dunn? Seems like I read that somewhere. Interesting if he did.

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    Re: Alonso thrilled to go to Reds at No. 7

    I found this little scouting blip from 2006 about Cline on a site called Perfect Game:

    http://www.perfectgame.org/events/20...se/tplist.aspx

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