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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    since the crown jewels

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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    Anyone think with Votto's recent surge he has a shot against the medie darling Cubs' Soto?

    Soto's overall numbers do look better as of now (especially when you consider he's a catcher), but with a really great September, I wonder if Votto might be able to make a run.

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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    Soto is a lock to win it. Votto could hit 30 homeruns and OPS .900 and Soto would win it because he plays for the first place Cubs.

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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    Soto has to be a lock
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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Soto is a lock to win it. Votto could hit 30 homeruns and OPS .900 and Soto would win it because he plays for the first place Cubs.
    Soto would win it because he's a catcher hitting .287/.368/.507 while playing in nearly all of his team's games.

    The real injustice would be if Votto won it because his team was higher in the standings....
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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    FWIW, I think Soto deserves the award. I'm just saying if Votto had the same numbers as a rookie from a first place team, regardless of position, the award would probably go to the guy on the better team.

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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    Unanimous for Soto. This was discussable in June. Not now.
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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    Votto's made a nice case, but Soto...the Cub...sadly, has the numbers, and should get it.

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    I think Hal Morris should win it instead of David Justice.
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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    I think the AL race has gotten a little more interesting, with Longoria out of action and the Rays just rolling along without him like he was never there.
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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    I think the AL race has gotten a little more interesting, with Longoria out of action and the Rays just rolling along without him like he was never there.
    The AL award is going to be very interesting if for no other reason that there are about 10 guys putting up solid rookie years. I think Longoria is the clear winner and should also win the gold glove. At first blush, I'd rank them like this:

    1. Longoria, TAM
    2. Galarraga, DET
    3. Chamerlain, NYY
    4. Aviles, KC
    5. Ziegler, OAK

    I'm imagine Ellsbury and Alexi Ramirez will finish in the top 5 along side the first 3 I've listed and Galarraga will probably be 4th or 5th.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    Longoria should have the AL Rookie of the Year award locked up IMO.

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    Re: NL Rookie of the Year 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Longoria should have the AL Rookie of the Year award locked up IMO.
    I still think he has to come back and play more, and he is expected to. But, if something changes and he only winds up playing a few more games, then I think the door's still open for someone else who finishes strongly, like Aviles or Galarraga.
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