This team isn't that bad, is it?
At what point do they cut their loss with their manager? Eat his contract?
I say Dusty gets fired halfway through next season if it's the same results.
This team isn't that bad, is it?
At what point do they cut their loss with their manager? Eat his contract?
I say Dusty gets fired halfway through next season if it's the same results.
I think this team could sure stand Firing Dick Pole and the Hitting Instructor, whoever that is...
i think they will stick with dusty, he's proven he can win unlike the other managers who were here, so that will give him more time in my opinion. Also i don't see them being in this same place next year, they should be a very good team next season after these young guys have a year of experience under their belts.
Too long.
And I think this team will stink again next season if they don't set themselves up properly by trading a few expensive players by the deadline.
FIRE DUSTY BAKER
ADOPT THIS SIGNATURE IN SOLIDARITY!!!
And who do the Reds replace these few expensive players with? With cheap better players? Sign me up!Originally Posted by Blue
Young players acquired in the trades and new expensive free agents. Have your cake and eat it, too.
FIRE DUSTY BAKER
ADOPT THIS SIGNATURE IN SOLIDARITY!!!
Dusty Baker is not this teams problem. I have disagreed with a Baker's moves several times this year, but this team is not built to win right now. The Reds have an aging superstar in RF, have used four shortstops, and are loaded with young players who are going to make mistakes. There isn't a manager in the world who would win with these guys -- at least for right now.
I do agree, however, that the Reds need to look for a new hitting coach. When Braden Looper can throw a complete game on 98 pitches in one of the best hitters parks in the league, you know you have a major problem.
Dusty's philosphy is what is killing this team, causing hacking at the plate. I say they stick with him for:
3 years, $10.5 million.
Until he stops batting CF's and SS's 1st and 2nd, regardless of that player's abilities - this lineup will continue to cause great pains to the Offensive Production.
That being said, it appears our biggest issues remain with Pitching and Defense, and nothing DUHsty is doing in that regards is hurting us. However, his insistence on prioritizing Defense over Offense - in Corey Patterson, Paul Janish, etc.. - has a DIRECT correlation to the point above, since those positions are CF and SS. SO, we can't win for losing, literally...
PEACE
-BLEEDS
I think that in a year or two, one of these guys - Frazier, Dorn, Valaika, Cumberland, Stubbs - will be ready to replace Dunn. They won't hit as many home runs as Dunn, but they should have similar OPS. - 757690, July 22, 2008
Alonso will be playing 1B for the REDS and batting 4th one year from today. - Kingspoint, July 9, 2009
This team has the potential to be very good. The streaky hitting is a problem obviously but I get the feeling we are on the verge of really putting it together. Dusty has won before. The youth of this team is a bigger problem than anything else right now.
If Jason LaRue can hit a HR against one of your better pitcher, it's time to move on to another pitching coach.
I wouldn't mind maybe putting Bench in there as pitching coach. Or hell, get Pete unsuspended and make him the hitting coach (... in other words, as likely as Bench being the pitching coach).
There are 162 games in a season. There are going to be many times when a lesser player hits a HR off a better player; hell it happens all the time. Brandan Freakin' Larson popped a monster shot off of Randy Johnson a couple years ago -- should the D'Backs have fired their pitching coach than? And Cueto's extremely young and is a rookie. If you didn't expect him to have his rough patches, you're stuck on cloud nine.
Just because Bench is one of the all time greats doesn't make him a quality pitching coach. Might as well try to sign Sandy Koufax to become our pitching coach with that logic.
Depends... did he give up hits to Cody Ross or Jorge Cantu as well?
The comments concerning Dusty Baker on this board simply amazes me at times. People thought the Reds were crazy to hire him despite the fact that in 14 seasons his teams had finished 1st 3 times and 6 times finished 2nd. One of the years his team finished 2nd in their division was in 2002 when the Giants actually won the NL. The Giants were up 3 games to 2 and were leading the Angels 5-0 going into the bottom of the 7th when his pitching staff who was 2nd in the NL with an ERA of 3.80 that season absolutely imploded and gave up 3 runs in both the 7th and 8th innings. They cost Dusty Baker his World Series ring. The man is 36th All-Time in wins. Do you realize that if he gets this team to .500 this season and next, which is a very real possibility, he will be 26th all time? One more season like that and he'll be in the Top 25 ALL TIME. 288 more wins and he'll pass Earl Weaver for 20th all time. And yet, people can't stop talking about stupid he is. Are some of his decisions and lineups questionable? Yes. But IMO he has earned the right to be given the benefit of the doubt and I would point out some of the players he's got to work with don't make his job easy.
Dusty's a proven winner, BAY-BEE. There shall be no baseclogging for years to come yet.
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