how long has it been since the pick ahead of him signed? need to make this happen
This is definitely taking longer than I thought it would. It almost undoubtebly is a money thing. Hopefully the deal gets done soon.
From Fay's blog - according to Jocketty the issue is that Yonder is asking for a major league contract - I don't think they'll be pushing that - signing bonus is one thing but major league contract as all sorts of problems associated with it.
Give it to him, it WILL NOT take him 3 years to get up here and be ready
In my book he could be a mid-season to September call up next year.
I just hope he signs by August 1st so he play a month of minor league ball and we can get a feel for how close he is to the majors.
I hope they do not give him a major leauge contract. That's a ridiculous request that may cripple the club when they're competing if he's not ready.
I hope they can get the deal done without that request.
I couldn't care less if he signs a Major League contract or not. Just get him signed! This guy isn't Dane Sardhina. He is going to be in the big leagues and will be there quickly. No need to screw around in the negotiations. Get 'er done!
I'm okay with a ML contract as long as it means his signing bonus is much smaller.
I've tried finding it myself, but can someone lay out what the timetable is for a player signed to a major league contract? I know it truncates the time the player is in the minors and I'd like to see what the possible consequences are for offering the guy a ML contract.
I know one consequence is that it eats up a 40 man slot when we wouldn't otherwise have to. I'm guessing the timetable is something like three or four years; and in this case, it may not be a bad risk (the 40 man slot being a larger factor than the development time).
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Signing Alonso to a ML contract would mean 1 less spot on the 40-man roster this winter.
It's pretty complicated. All players start with three options years.
Let's say Yonder Alonso signs a contract on August 15th, but the Reds call on him as a September call-up on September 1st. That means he was optioned to the minors for less than 20 days, and an option year was not used (regardless of whether he played or not). But if he is optioned to the minors for 20 days or more, then an option years is used, and he would then have only two option years left.
If after his three options years, he still does not have five full years as a pro (one year as a pro equals 90 days on an active pro roster), he qualifies for a fourth option year.
In other words, if the Reds get creative, Alonso would not use an option year in 2008, and for 2009-2012, he could spend each year in the minors, which would mean that he would have to be ready for the Major Leagues in 2013. Like I said, I don't have a problem with Alonso having a major league contract (which would result in him earning slightly more money, since he would be on the 40-man roster) as long as the Reds get a discount on the signing bonus.
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