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    Dusty on Votto leading off...

    Marty just said on the broadcast that Dusty told him that batting Votto in the leadoff spot was more than likely a one game, one time only thing....(Votto did get a leadoff hit to start the game)





    Yet....Corey Patterson, who does nothing in that slot (or any slot) has gotten and will get continuous chances.....when he plays, of course.
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    Re: Dusty on Votto leading off...

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Marty just said on the broadcast that Dusty told him that batting Votto in the leadoff spot was more than likely a one game, one time only thing....(Votto did get a leadoff hit to start the game)





    Yet....Corey Patterson, who does nothing in that slot (or any slot) has gotten and will get continuous chances.....when he plays, of course.

    I knew it. He did it and the Reds didn't win so that's why he won't do it again.
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    Re: Dusty on Votto leading off...

    Hey, Chip....my game thread is locked in the game thread forum (and I put the wrong date on it), can you unlock it and fix it?

    Thanks!
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    Re: Dusty on Votto leading off...

    Just long enough to get people off of Corey's (aka Dusty's) back. It was an exercise in PR, not in strategy.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Dusty on Votto leading off...

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Hey, Chip....my game thread is locked in the game thread forum (and I put the wrong date on it), can you unlock it and fix it?

    Thanks!

    I just did it.
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    Re: Dusty on Votto leading off...

    Thanks!

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    Re: Dusty on Votto leading off...

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Just long enough to get people off of Corey's (aka Dusty's) back. It was an exercise in PR, not in strategy.
    That's Dusty.
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    Re: Dusty on Votto leading off...

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Marty just said on the broadcast that Dusty told him that batting Votto in the leadoff spot was more than likely a one game, one time only thing....(Votto did get a leadoff hit to start the game)





    Yet....Corey Patterson, who does nothing in that slot (or any slot) has gotten and will get continuous chances.....when he plays, of course.
    It continues to Patterson's fault. Just like it was Castro's fault.
    If they get rid of Patterson it will be, maybe, Javy's fault.

    How about some blame for the guys who play every single day and don't hit.

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    Re: Dusty on Votto leading off...

    "Someday, he is going to be two, three, five," Baker said. "I explained that to him. I wasn't crazy about hitting seventh one year. I hit 30 home runs that year. But it's a very important part of the lineup. You can't have too many low-average guys at the bottom of the lineup."

    The numbers show Votto has done best in the seventh spot.

    "He's like .333 in the seventh hole," Baker said. "He's .186 in the sixth hole, .286 in the fifth hole, .154 in the fourth hole.

    "He might not to be ready to move up like we all want him to."

    Source John Fay
    http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.d...T04/806190391/
    Code:
    Joey Votto
    vs. Left  AB  72  BA .292 OBP .388 SLG .528 OPS .916 
    vs. Right AB 158  BA .272 OBP .327 SLG .462 OPS .789
    
    Joey Votto career
    By Batting Order   AB AVG   OBP SLG OPS 
    Batting #3        25 .280 .280 .640 .920 
    Batting #5         4 .250 .250 .250 .500 
    Batting #6        14 .286 .286 .286 .572 
    Batting #7        33 .333 .389 .515 .904 
    Batting #8         6 .667 .750 1.333 2.083 
    Batting #9         2 .000 .000 .000 .000
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...&type=batting3

    2008 Joey Votto Includes Votto’s slow April start along with small samples for every batting position except the 7 spot
    Code:
    By Batting Order   AB AVG OBP  SLG   OPS 
    Batting #1         4 .250 .250 .250 .500 
    Batting #2         5 .000 .000 .000 .000 
    Batting #4        13 .154 .353 .154 .507 
    Batting #5        30 .267 .371 .733 1.104 
    Batting #6        43 .186 .239 .372 .611 
    Batting #7       123 .333 .390 .504 .894 
    Batting #9        12 .333 .385 .667 1.052
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...ting&year=2008
    Code:
    2007 Joey Votto
    By Batting Order   AB  AVG  OBP SLG   OPS 
    Batting #5          4 .250 .250 .250 .500 
    Batting #6         14 .286 .286 .286 .572 
    Batting #7         33 .333 .389 .515 .904 
    Batting #8          6 .667 .750 1.333 2.083 
    Batting #3         25 .280 .280 .640 .920 
    Batting #9          2 .000 .000 .000 .000
    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...ting&year=2007
    Last edited by Spring~Fields; 06-19-2008 at 07:19 PM.

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    Re: Dusty on Votto leading off...

    Who leadoff today and did Patterson play again today??With that great batting average that he has I am sure Dusty thinks he should play almost every game.
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