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    Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    After seeing that garbage tonight he has got to get on the ball.Major changes coming soon as we near the trade deadline.Though looks like next year could be more of the same,one thing at a time I guess.We got a legit SP staff now it seems,give or take the last two spots.When was the last time the Reds had the best starter in baseball?
    Now the bats need to fall in place,and it's gonna take major change,a lot of Redzoners are going to get there feelings hurt,however it's inevitable.The winds of change may be blowing in the Queen city soon.

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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    I'm reluctantly to the point where I'm willing to accept major changes in the roster.

    Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results some say is the definition of insanity.

    At this point I'm ready to try any path Walt J and company want to take the team.

    Wherever, it's gotta be better than where we've been...

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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    You aint kidding right there. Needs to sure up the catchers spot, outfield depending on if we keep Griff an Dunn. The day of the 3 run homer need to end in Cincy. We haven't won with it. This team needs to become predicated on pitching and defense. With Bruce, Phillips, Votto the offense i'll come.

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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    The problem with this team is that they need to dip into free agency, but there isn't much quality out there. It will be tough to acquire some good outfielders for next year to beef up the offense.
    Who's on first?

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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    Quote Originally Posted by Strider View Post
    I'm reluctantly to the point where I'm willing to accept major changes in the roster.

    Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results some say is the definition of insanity.

    At this point I'm ready to try any path Walt J and company want to take the team.

    Wherever, it's gotta be better than where we've been...
    Totally agree!!!!!!

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    I am really starting to feel that way, too. I do feel like the foundation of Votto, Bruce, EE, Volquez, Cueto, etc is strong. At least if Dunn and Griff both are elsewhere next year, that's an aweful lot of cash freed up for Walt to work with.
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    Quote Originally Posted by ChatterRed View Post
    The problem with this team is that they need to dip into free agency, but there isn't much quality out there. It will be tough to acquire some good outfielders for next year to beef up the offense.
    I disagree. Jr. and Dunn won't be difficult to replace. Defensive replacements alone would make up for at least half of their offensive production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 44Magnum View Post
    I disagree. Jr. and Dunn won't be difficult to replace. Defensive replacements alone would make up for at least half of their offensive production.
    Ditto that.

    And just because the list of potential free agents appears to be unflattering, I'd expect free agent signees with Cinci to get a nice little GABP boost to their offensive statistics.

    I'm ready to set sail on the Dunn-Griffey era. I don't care who Jocketty plugs into the lineup, just as long as it's a winning product.

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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    Quote Originally Posted by 44Magnum View Post
    I disagree. Jr. and Dunn won't be difficult to replace. Defensive replacements alone would make up for at least half of their offensive production.
    I want to make sure I'm following. A defensive upgrade in LF and RF would be worth sacrificing 50 HR, 120 RBIs and 120 Runs scored next year? Is that really an acceptable drop in production?

    By saying that improved defense would make up for more than half of Dunn and Griffey's combined offense, that would mean the new corner outfielders would each hit (at most) 25 HR, 60 RBIs, and score 60 runs next year. I'm not sure if I'd call that an upgrade. Sure, the Dunn and Griffey are trending down this year but I still want more than 60 RBIs from the corner guys.

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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    I agree with the thread title, this organization is in shambles.

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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    Need Juan Castro back....and Chad Moeller....Championship.

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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    We already traded for Aaron Herr. Better days soon to follow.
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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigLebowski View Post
    We already traded for Aaron Herr. Better days soon to follow.

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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    Matt Anderson was once the #1 overall draft pick. He's on Charlotte's roster but hasn't pitched in over three weeks, so I'm thinking he's available. Sign him, and it's World Series here we come.

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    Re: Jocketty has got his work cut out for him

    From ORG, here's what he has to work with in terms of free agents this offseason:

    *****a quick note, this list isn't complete, as the player I want the reds to go after (milton bradley) is a free agent after this season, and he isn't listed, I can't post in ORG but they should probably know that the list is missing players.


    2009 Free Agents
    The following players have contracts expiring or should have the six years of service necessary to become free agents after the 2008 season.
    * - player whose contract includes 2009 option

    Player Club

    First Basemen
    Rich Aurilia SF
    Ben Broussard TEX
    Carlos Delgado * NYM
    Nomar Garciaparra LAD
    Jason Giambi * NYY
    Wes Helms PHI
    Kevin Millar BAL
    Richie Sexson SEA
    Mark Teixeira ATL
    Frank Thomas OAK
    Jim Thome CWS
    Daryle Ward CHC

    Second Basemen
    Jamey Carroll * CLE
    Ray Durham SF
    Mark Ellis OAK
    Marcus Giles COL
    Mark Grudzielanek KC
    Orlando Hudson ARZ
    Jeff Kent LAD
    Felipe Lopez WAS
    D’Angelo Jimenez STL
    Pablo Ozuna * CWS
    Nick Punto MIN
    Jose Valentin NYM
    Jose Vidro * SEA

    Shortstops
    Orlando Cabrera CWS
    Alex Cintron CWS
    Alex Cora BOS
    Craig Counsell * MIL
    Adam Everett MIN
    Rafael Furcal LAD
    Cristian Guzman WAS
    Cesar Izturis STL
    Ramon Martinez LAD
    Edgar Renteria * DET
    Juan Uribe CWS

    Third Basemen
    Hank Blalock * TEX
    Joe Crede CWS
    Morgan Ensberg NYY
    Chipper Jones * ATL
    Corey Koskie MIL
    Greg Norton TB

    Catchers
    Rod Barajas TOR
    Henry Blanco * CHC
    Johnny Estrada MIL
    Toby Hall * CWS
    Adam Melhuse TEX
    Mike Redmond * MIN
    Ivan Rodriguez DET
    David Ross * CIN
    Javier Valentin CIN
    Jason Varitek BOS
    Vance Wilson DET
    Gregg Zaun * TOR

    Outfielders
    Bobby Abreu NYY
    Moises Alou NYM
    Garret Anderson * LAA
    Rocco Baldelli TB
    Willie Bloomquist SEA
    Emil Brown OAK
    Pat Burrell PHI
    Endy Chavez NYM
    Carl Crawford * TB
    Adam Dunn CIN
    Jim Edmonds CHC
    Juan Encarnacion STL
    Cliff Floyd TB
    Brian Giles * SD
    Ken Griffey Jr. * CIN
    Vladimir Guerrero * LAA
    Raul Ibanez SEA
    Jacque Jones DET
    Mark Kotsay ATL
    Rob Mackowiak WAS
    Kevin Mench TEX
    Jason Michaels * CLE
    Craig Monroe MIN
    Jay Payton BAL
    Scott Podsednik COL
    Manny Ramirez * BOS
    Juan Rivera LAA
    Rondell White MIN

    Starting Pitchers
    Kris Bensen BAL
    A.J. Burnett TOR (may opt out)
    Paul Byrd CLE
    Jon Garland LAA
    Tom Glavine ATL
    Mike Hampton * ATL
    Rich Harden * OAK
    Orlando Hernandez NYM
    Jason Jennings TEX
    Randy Johnson ARZ
    John Lackey * LAA
    Esteban Loaiza OAK
    Braden Looper STL
    Derek Lowe LAD
    Pedro Martinez NYM
    Matt Morris * PIT
    Mike Mussina NYY
    Jamie Moyer PHI
    Mark Mulder * STL
    Carl Pavano NYY
    Brad Penny * LAD
    Odalis Perez WAS
    Oliver Perez NYM
    Andy Pettitte NYY
    Mark Prior SD
    Horatio Ramirez SEA
    C.C. Sabathia CLE
    Ben Sheets MIL
    John Smoltz * ATL
    Julian Tavarez BOS
    Steve Trachsel BAL
    Brett Tomko KC
    Claudio Vargas MIL
    Randy Wolf SD

    Relief Pitchers
    Tony Armas Jr. PIT
    Luis Ayala WAS
    Joe Beimel LAD
    Joe Borowski CLE
    Juan Cruz ARZ
    Ryan Dempster CHC
    Brendan Donnelly BOS
    Scott Downs TOR
    Alan Embree * OAK
    Scott Eyre CHC
    Kyle Farnsworth NYY
    Casey Fossum TB
    Brian Fuentes COL
    Aaron Fultz CLE
    Tom Gordon * PHI
    LaTroy Hawkins NYY
    Mark Hendrickson LAD
    Trevor Hoffman SD
    Bobby Howry CHC
    Jason Isringhausen STL
    Steve Kline SF
    Brad Lidge PHI
    Brandon Lyon ARZ
    Damaso Marte * PIT
    Tom Martin COL
    Julio Mateo PHI
    Guillermo Mota MIL
    Will Ohman CHC
    Hideki Okajima * BOS
    Darren Oliver LAA
    John Parrish SEA
    Chris Reitsma SEA
    Dennys Reyes MIN
    Juan Rincon MIN
    Francisco Rodriguez LAA
    Brian Shouse MIL
    Rafael Soriano ATL
    Jorge Sosa NYM
    Mike Stanton * CIN
    Salomon Torres * MIL
    Derrick Turnbow MIL
    Oscar Villarreal ATL
    David Weathers CIN
    Dan Wheeler TB
    Dave Williams NYM
    Matt Wise NYM
    Jay Witasick TB


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