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    CC being targeted by Milwaukee

    If true, I can't imagine the Cubs topping it.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Hea...=MLB&hl=242930

    The Milwaukee Brewers are serious about trading for Indians left-hander C.C. Sabathia more serious, perhaps, than any other club.

    The Brewers' offer for Sabathia includes Class AA left fielder Matt LaPorta, according to sources with two other clubs that are interested in acquiring the pitcher.

    Class AA shortstop Alcides Escobar also may be in the Brewers' proposed deal, one of the sources says.

    And the Indians scouted the Brewers' Class A Brevard County (Fla.) affiliate on Wednesday night, looking at third baseman Taylor Green, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

    The Brewers likely would prefer to substitute a lesser player for Escobar, or perhaps would insist upon additional talent if the Indians demanded his inclusion. But if the Brewers indeed were willing to give up both LaPorta and Escobar, the Sabathia sweepstakes might be over before they started.

    "I can not imagine anyone would top that," the first source said.

    The second added, "That deal should get it done."

    Sabathia, 6-5 with a 2.16 ERA in his past 14 starts, is scheduled to pitch twice more before the All-Star break. The Indians could act quickly to maximize their return or allow demand to build by holding Sabathia until closer to the July 31 non-waiver deadline.

    LaPorta, 23, and Escobar, 21, would be a steep price for Sabathia, who is headed for free agency at the end of the season. But the Brewers, facing a potentially dramatic off-season makeover, are in a more urgent position than other clubs, rival executives say.

    Right-hander Ben Sheets is almost certain to depart as a free agent; he and Sabathia would be the two top starting pitchers on the market. First baseman Prince Fielder, represented by Scott Boras, could be traded out of fear that he would not sign with the Brewers long-term.

    The Brewers would collect four premium draft picks if Sheets and Sabathia signed with other clubs. They also could obtain two or three minor-league prospects if they traded Fielder. But they would not be as competitive in the NL Central next season, even with right-hander Yovani Gallardo returning from knee surgery.

    The Rays, another team interested in Sabathia, are not as motivated to make such a short-term grab, sources say. The Red Sox, deep in starting pitching, believe that the price for Sabathia would not be worth the marginal upgrade that he would provide over a pitcher such as right-hander Clay Buchholz in the second half.

    The Yankees are monitoring the Sabathia sweepstakes, but seem disinclined to offer major prospects when they can sign the pitcher as a free agent. The Phillies and Cubs both want Sabathia, but their farm systems are not considered to be as deep as the Brewers'.

    LaPorta, the Brewers' first-round pick in 2007, is an American League-type player, rival scouts and executives say, a right-handed slugger who is below-average defensively. He was a first baseman at Florida, but the Brewers have converted him to left field a position occupied by Ryan Braun, who is signed through 2015.

    The Indians badly need power. Center fielder Grady Sizemore leads the AL with 21 home runs, but designated hitter Travis Hafner hit only four before going on the disabled list with a right shoulder strain on May 30 and catcher Victor Martinez had zero before going on the DL June 12 with a right-elbow injury.

    LaPorta is tied for the Southern League lead with 19 homers and third in the league in OPS. Three of his Huntsville teammates third baseman Mat Gamel, catcher Angel Salome, and first baseman Chris Errecart rank first, sixth and seventh in OPS, respectively.

    If LaPorta were traded, either Gamel or Errecart could emerge as the long-term replacement for Fielder. The inclusion of Escobar in a deal for Sabathia, however, would qualify as a surprise.

    "He's not a little bit better than Hardy defensively he's way better," one rival executive says, referring to the Brewers' starting shortstop, J.J. Hardy. "Escobar is a phenomenal shortstop, a show-stopper. Hardy has lost a step in the field."

    The Brewers, if they preferred to keep Escobar, instead could seek to include Hardy in the deal. But Hardy, whose OPS ranks third among NL shortstops, will be only two years away from free agency at the end of the season, and less appealing to the Indians.
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    Re: CC being targeted by Milwaukee

    LaPorta, Escobar, and another prospect would be a huge haul for the Indians.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    That sure is giving up a lot for a guy WHO WILL walk at season's end.

    The kid's desire is the west coast where his roots be. And of course he also wants that huge Santana-like payday.
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    Re: CC being targeted by Milwaukee

    That would be a good deal for both sides, the Brew crew can live without those prospects and they get CC for a shot at a ring.
    Go Gators!

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    Flags fly forever.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Flags fly forever.
    Amen.
    Go Gators!

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    Re: CC being targeted by Milwaukee

    Milwaukee has been building that farm system for years. It might just be ready to pay off big time if they can pull that trigger.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Better them than the Cubs. They could throw in Bill Hall while they are at it.
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    Re: CC being targeted by Milwaukee

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    LaPorta, Escobar, and another prospect would be a huge haul for the Indians.

    Doesn’t Milwaukee have, I want to say several players at AAA and AA that have solid numbers indicating that they could perform well at the MLB level? I don’t mean older career minor leaguers, I mean the real form of top prospects? I thought that I saw a higher number of players with very nice stats, than with most teams.

    What could Jocketty get for Harang and Cordero ? (No trade clauses can be waived.)

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    Re: CC being targeted by Milwaukee

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Better them than the Cubs. They could throw in Bill Hall while they are at it.
    LOL. Heck yeah! Get Bill Hall outta here. Any way they could swing a three team trade and end up sending Lance Berkman to the Tribe as well? :O)
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Any way they could swing a three team trade and end up sending Lance Berkman to the Tribe as well? :O)

    I heard that. Maybe CC would be interested in the Reds as a FA. He could hit, and if the Reds told him he could have all the Graeters, Skyline, La Rosas and Montgomery Inn he wanted for free, he'd probably sign here in a heartbeat.
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    Re: CC being targeted by Milwaukee

    Look at it this way,

    Brewers pull the trigger on a Sabathia deal.

    Even if he does leave, he and Sheets will both net two draft picks, and with the Brewers track record of developing prospects, that could be dangerous.
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    Re: CC being targeted by Milwaukee

    add to that the prospects they will get for Prince when they deal him in the next year or two...reloading the system for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasonBuzz3 View Post
    add to that the prospects they will get for Prince when they deal him in the next year or two...reloading the system for sure
    Sad thing is, it would make more sense for them to keep LaPorta and use him at 1B and deal Prince for spects.

    They could likely make a CC deal work with Matt Gamel and Escobar, keep LaPorta, and deal Prince for spects.
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    Re: CC being targeted by Milwaukee

    I'd take Gamel, Salome, and LaPorta for Harang.

    And I'd be shopping Harang to Milwaukee, too, for just that package.
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