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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

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    Will he start against us in this series?
    No, Lou said his first start will come against the Giants.
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    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??


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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Wow. Oakland got a bag of beans. I don't get it.

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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Murton is exactly the kind of guy one might think Beane has a fetish for-good on base skills, gap power and an excellent defender.

    I think it'll be interesting to see where Patterson plays-if second eventually, he'll be a defensive downgrade vs Ellis.

    But that's two guys coming back that figure to be solid regulars for the As.

    Gallagher projects to be something like a league average starter for Oakland maybe even more in an environment that suppresses HRs.

    Donaldson projects to be a regular catcher with some plus offense. Catchers are lottery tickets but it's hard to not like Donaldson.

    Beane pulled off another nice trade as he continues to infuse the As with talent.

    He gave up a year+ from a good starter but with Harden's injury history, it's possible Harden might not give the Cubs 30 starts. He also gave up a reliever.
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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Sean Marshall isn't exactly a world beater but he isn't a bad pitcher. Given his flyball tendencies, Oakland is an ideal place for him to pitch.

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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Gallagher will be a solid middle-of-the-rotation starter for many years but I would have still held out for Josh Vitters or Jose Ceda to be in the package. Donaldson has a chance to be a decent hitting catcher but is currently struggling with a .625 OPS in the Midwest League (Low-A). I like Murton but I'm not sure he'll ever hit for enough power to play a corner outfield spot. Patterson is hitting well in AAA but like his brother he struggles to take a walk (only 12 in 203 atbats).

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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    That went from rumor to confirmation in, like, 24 hours....

    Wow.

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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Sean Marshall isn't exactly a world beater but he isn't a bad pitcher. Given his flyball tendencies, Oakland is an ideal place for him to pitch.
    It's Sean Gallagher, not Sean Marshall.

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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Sean Marshall isn't exactly a world beater but he isn't a bad pitcher. Given his flyball tendencies, Oakland is an ideal place for him to pitch.
    In your opinion did the Cubs give up a lot to get Harden and Gaudin

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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Murton is exactly the kind of guy one might think Beane has a fetish for-good on base skills, gap power and an excellent defender.
    Matt Murton is an awful defender, but he is definatley a player you knew Beane would get in return.
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    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??

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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Can the Cubs exercise Harden's option for next year?

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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Can the Cubs exercise Harden's option for next year?
    It's not a rental. Hendry said his option could automatically kick in, the Cubs could exercise it, or they could go to arby. Either way they have him for a year and a half.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??

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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    It's not a rental. Hendry said his option could automatically kick in, the Cubs could exercise it, or they could go to arby. Either way they have him for a year and a half.
    I've had Harden every year in fantasy praying for health. Now I have to pray for injury. I can't believe this move.

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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Hmmm, seems like the A's could have gotten more.

    I believe Harden has fared tremendously well in the Oakland grand canyon, er, Coliseum. Isnt' he mostly a fly ball pitcher though? To Wrigley?
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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    The Reds could/should have offered more than this for Harden. He's an unbelievable get.

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    Re: Cubs Acquire Rich Harden

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    It's Sean Gallagher, not Sean Marshall.
    Well then, I take back what I said and replace it with 'Better job than I thought at first Billy Beane. Gallagher is not a bad pitcher at all.


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