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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Didn't see this posted anywhere. Stubbs was named FSL player of the week last week.


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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    May have been the plan all along -- promote to Chattanooga midyear if head is above water in Sarasota.

    Biggest challenge for Stubbs so far, and it should give some good insight into his true status as a prospect.

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Past April of this year, his OPS is anemic, below .700. His primary weapon, OBP was merely adequate. He had a hot 5 days in July, just like he did in June.

    He's been awful for over 2 months now.
    So if you take out his good months, and then his good weeks, he's awful. OK. His 2008 OPS is .772, that's not good and it's not awful, it's mediocre.

    And princeton is right, why in the world would we trade Stubbs if he shows anything at all in AA. People were thrilled last week when it was rumored that the Reds would acquire a good defensive CF with a career .733 OPS.

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    I think this is a bit of a crap-or-get-off-the-pot move for Drew. If he flubs around at Chattanooga we'll know we've got nothing. If, miraculously, he answers the bell and hits, maybe we can expect something out of Drew.
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    I'm not thrilled with his performance, but a .772 OPS from a CF in a tough park isn't horrible. Frankly, I'm glad he's out of there either way. We need to see what he can do against more advanced pitching in a more neutral environment. It should be interesting.
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by Grande Donkey View Post
    I'm surprised that they promoted Cumberland before he got to play in the AA All-Star game. I was told that was the plan a week or two ago.
    Cumberland has a been in a big slump so far in July which has dropped his OPS from over .900 to .836. Hopefully he can bounce back and hit well in Louisville.

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Guessing that we'll see Dickerson either with the Reds or in a trade very soon.
    Dickerson has been hitting better at AAA and it's time for him to try his hand at the major leagues. Don't see much more reason for him to stay in the minor leagues.

    I'm inferring this from the advancement of Cumberland. Sean Henry seems readier for AAA at bat, he's much hotter, 60 points higher in OPS, Cumberland has slumped of late. I think, perhaps, Cumberland's ability to play centerfield (Dickerson's position) is the reason he was promoted.

    All this is speculation on my part.
    Last edited by Kc61; 07-09-2008 at 12:26 PM.

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    This should be interesting. His prospect status could shoot all over the place depending on what he does in Chattanooga.

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Just keep doing what you were doing Drew and things will be fine.

    14.2% walk rate
    22.8% strikeout rate
    27% line drive rate

    Do those in AA, and your numbers will pile up.

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by SMcGavin View Post
    So if you take out his good months, and then his good weeks, he's awful. OK. His 2008 OPS is .772, that's not good and it's not awful, it's mediocre.

    And princeton is right, why in the world would we trade Stubbs if he shows anything at all in AA. People were thrilled last week when it was rumored that the Reds would acquire a good defensive CF with a career .733 OPS.
    you are looking at a number and not the context. He's sucked since the beginning of May, with one good week in June and 5 days in July. His overall numbers are skewed by a torrid April. Pitchers adjusted, he didn't.
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Just keep doing what you were doing Drew and things will be fine.

    14.2% walk rate
    22.8% strikeout rate
    27% line drive rate

    Do those in AA, and your numbers will pile up.
    funny, they didn't "pile up" at Sarasota.
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Past April of this year, his OPS is anemic, below .700. His primary weapon, OBP was merely adequate. He had a hot 5 days in July, just like he did in June.

    He's been awful for over 2 months now.
    Monthly splits are pretty much meaningless as indicators of talent level -- aka predictors of future performance. It's as true in the minors as it is in the majors. If they've raised some specific concern due to a change in his swing mechanics or the like, that's certainly valid, but they aren't meaningful in and of themselves.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    you are looking at a number and not the context. He's sucked since the beginning of May, with one good week in June and 5 days in July. His overall numbers are skewed by a torrid April. Pitchers adjusted, he didn't.
    Yeah, his walk rate being over 16% says pitchers adjusted and he didn't.... He has struck out less and walked more since May began while keeping up strong line drive rates. His April was very good, but since then he hasn't changed up of his game (improving walk rates, lowering strikeout rates and maintaining a line drive rate that would still be in the top 4 of the league since May began), the numbers just don't bear it out.

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Monthly splits are pretty much meaningless as indicators of talent level -- aka predictors of future performance. It's as true in the minors as it is in the majors. If they've raised some specific concern due to a change in his swing mechanics or the like, that's certainly valid, but they aren't meaningful in and of themselves.
    they aren't meaningless if it is 2 months in a row. that's the formation of a trend. added to his overall body of work, it's a profile.
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    funny, they didn't "pile up" at Sarasota.
    Neither did a lot of guys in the FSL.... but once they left the numbers seemed to show up for a lot of guys who didn't OPS .800 there.


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