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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    I'd have promoted Stubbs because why not?

    He's not impressing anyone where he is. If he can put up the same numbers he has through A ball in AA, then someone might get enthusiastic about his minimalist production. If AA pitchers eat him alive, then the Reds can always claim it was an aggressive promotion and they expected that he'd be in for a rough transition.
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    For the record, I'm predicting his numbers decline.

    Hope I'm wrong!
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    lollipopcurve, great idea for a new thread!

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    they aren't meaningless if it is 2 months in a row. that's the formation of a trend. added to his overall body of work, it's a profile.
    I'm sorry TRF, but in isolation, two months in a row is still meaningless. The more data we have the better. If it's 3 months in a row, it starts to reach the level of meaningful. And if it's 4 or 5, now you're talking. But 2 is not the point at which we can start to infer meaning. The sample size is still too small.

    I agree with your second point though. Add it to your overall body of knowledge. Selectively choosing end points to establish a new baseline is folly. It is extremely unlikely that Stubbs' true ability has changed for the worse over the course of the year. Stubbs isn't the .900+ OPS guy he was in April and he's not the sub .700 OPS guy he was in June. He's the guy who did both and as he accrues at bats is most likely to produce something closer to his season-to-date numbers than any of his monthly breakouts or grouping thereof.
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    A needed promotion based on who he is and not what he's done.
    Are you saying he doesn't deserve the promotion, or are you saying others deserved it more? I agree with the latter, but based on his age and what he has done, I feel like he's worthy of a promotion (but wouldn't have been an obvious choice if he were, hypothetically, a 30th round draft choice).

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    It will nice to see Stubby roming around CF. He will help the Lookouts quite a bit with just his defense alone. The OF was not very good last night and cost them the"W".

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    The question for me becomes, who replaces Stubbs at Sarasota? I like having Perales and Heisey playing every day, but I hate to see Carson Kainer and Yuber Rodriguez get so many at-bats.

    My guess is that Todd Frazier becomes the left fielder, with Chris Heisey getting most of the playing time in center. Juan Francisco already has all the playing time at third base, and Logan Parker will be 24 years old soon and should be the every-day first baseman at Sarasota by now.

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    My guess is that Todd Frazier becomes the left fielder, with Chris Heisey getting most of the playing time in center. Juan Francisco already has all the playing time at third base, and Logan Parker will be 24 years old soon and should be the every-day first baseman at Sarasota by now.
    Yeah...

    Frazier -- LF
    Heisey -- CF
    Perales -- RF
    Francisco -- 3B
    Alonso -- 1B
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Yeah...

    Frazier -- LF
    Heisey -- CF
    Perales -- RF
    Francisco -- 3B
    Alonso -- 1B
    That would be a pretty fun team to watch. Right now I'm going to focus on the AA team, with Valaika, Henry, Stubbs, Dorn, Turner, Gutierrez, Eymann, Wood, Watson, Manuel, LeCure, Jukich, Fisher, Viola, and Smith. That SHOULD be a good team.
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Stubbs will put up better numbers.

    Henry went from .784 in the FSL to .896 in Chattanooga.
    Turner went from .774 to .806
    DeJesus has gone from .635 to .829
    Eymann has gone from .652 to .771
    Gutierrez has gone from .778 to .798

    Valaika and Tatum are the only two that have decreased from the FSL (Hi-A) to AA.

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    I hope he can make it to Louisville by the end of they year. Start next year out there and get called up to Cincy some time in the middle of the season or in September.
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
    I hope he can make it to Louisville by the end of they year. Start next year out there and get called up to Cincy some time in the middle of the season or in September.

    Yeah, Reds need some more sub-.800 OPS hitters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Yeah, Reds need some more sub-.800 OPS hitters.
    I would much rather have Stubbs with the Reds than Corey Patterson. Chances are C.Patt won't be with the Reds next year so they can spend that 3 million else where while Stubbs gets about 300,000.
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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Yeah, Reds need some more sub-.800 OPS hitters.
    If Stubbs puts up an OPS of .750 as a center fielder, he'll be above average. If he puts up an .800 OPS with 'gold glove' defense, he'll be All-Star caliber.

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    Re: Stubbs to Chatt

    CF is a critical need for the Reds. It is also a position in which defensive ability is relatively more important. Looks to me that in the spring, the Reds did not see making a run this year with Freel as everyday CF'er. I think the Reds signed Corey, believing they could get good 'D' and a .260 avg. Yes, they overpaid, but there was reason to expect they could those numbers. To date, Bruce has proved he is a better RF than CF.

    I think they drafted Stubbs as a potential gold glove CF. My guess is that the Reds would happily settle for offensive numbers at the ML level consistent with what Stubbs has put up in the minors. I don't see any other true CF'ers in the system. They need to push Stubbs so they can determine if Drew is their guy. Another possibility is a Stubbs/Dickerson platoon with Chris getting the call against tough right handers. If not Dickerson, is he worth protecting on the 40 man roster at all? Also, they have to make a decision on Hairston for next year...CF? SS? Where does he fit in, if at all? The first step in sorting this out seems to be to challenge Stubbs and Dickerson with promotions. I expect to see Dickerson to Reds and a Lookouts outfielder to Bats soon.


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