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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    If you have 50ip or 150 AB's in the majors, you are no longer considered a 'prospect'. Bailey has more than 50 ip..
    OK if we're sticking to those rules, but in terms of adding talent to the major league team from the minor league system, he's still a very valuable prospect in my book.

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    You don't think Valaika's bat will play at 2B or 3B? His glove is plenty fine for 2B.
    I think his bat will play at 2B but not his glove. I think his glove could play at 3B, but his bat will be a little light.

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    His defense alone makes him a 4th outfielder. I dunno, I just think its strange that if he boosts his OPS a whopping 25 points he somehow jumps 10 spots up the list.
    HIs defense alone makes him Reggie Taylor, Corey Patterson or DeWayne Wise. He needs to hit with some frequency and a little pop or his abilty to walk will be useless to him. The fact that the improvement comes at AA in comparison to what he had been doing at lower levels jumps him that many spots.


    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Wood is far from a 'faded prospect'. He has been pretty inconsistent in AA to this point (5 starts with 2 or fewer runs allowed, 4 starts with 5 or more runs) but faded prospect? He has good stuff and is a lefty. Yeah, his build is of some concern, but I think its pushing it to say he is a faded prospect. As for Jukich.... I really don't see him as being anything more than a Tom Shearn type of guy. I hope he does better, but thats who he reminds me of.
    Wood is on this list based on his 2006 season at Dayton. 2007 was bad and 2008 has been iffy. That is becoming fairly far removed from the present day. Combine that with the physical questions and its fairly iffy for me. If he gets it together I'll move him up. I think all the starters on the "B" list are flawed. Performance at AA or above trumps scouting reports and non-performance at those levels IMO.
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    Re: BA Midseason Top 25 Prospects

    2007 he was injured for the most part. 2008 has been fine overall for Wood.

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    Re: BA Midseason Top 25 Prospects

    Cincy seems to have passed over a bunch of those guys in the last 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Cincy seems to have passed over a bunch of those guys in the last 2 years.
    So has every other team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    So has every other team.
    Doesn't make me feel any better.

    Other teams who passed on Porcello in the first round of 2007 got guys like Alderson or Laporta.

    Teams who passed on Snider in the first rd of 2006 got guys like Lincecum or Scherzer.

    Teams who passed on Brett Anderson in the 2nd rd of 2006 got guys like Tillman.

    There are just so many guys who fall in these drafts that the Reds just flat out ignore. The Watson pick still boggles my mind to this day. Instead of chasing idiotic FAs like Corey Patterson, they need to just draft the BPA in every round. Guys like LaPorta, Fowler and Lars Anderson. Too many top rated players drop rounds because of bonus demands and the like. Boston took Laporta and Anderson in the 14th and 18th rounds in 2006. They aren't dumb.

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    Re: BA Midseason Top 25 Prospects

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    As for Jukich.... I really don't see him as being anything more than a Tom Shearn type of guy. I hope he does better, but thats who he reminds me of.
    I disagree. For one, Jukich is a lefty. Two, Jukich is only 25 and will surely make the majors before he's 29. Jukich is currently 8-4 with a 3.60 ERA, 92 Ks in 116 IP at AA. That is considerably better than anything Shearn ever did in the minors, especially at that age. I see what you are saying that Jukich isn't a top prospect, more like a journeyman, but he's definitely way better than Tom Shearn IMO. Especially Tom Shearn five years ago.

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    Re: BA Midseason Top 25 Prospects

    Doug...

    Don't get me wrong...I'm with you, but you generally seem to give guys the benefit of the doubt, i.e. you look at their glass as half full. I do as well, but you are much more schooled than I.

    So, what Reds "prospects" if any, does the forum still pimp, but you may have "given up" on. Hope this question makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    I disagree. For one, Jukich is a lefty. Two, Jukich is only 25 and will surely make the majors before he's 29. Jukich is currently 8-4 with a 3.60 ERA, 92 Ks in 116 IP at AA. That is considerably better than anything Shearn ever did in the minors, especially at that age. I see what you are saying that Jukich isn't a top prospect, more like a journeyman, but he's definitely way better than Tom Shearn IMO. Especially Tom Shearn five years ago.
    While I understand where you are coming from, I just see him as a type of guy who would have similar results as Shearn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Doug...

    Don't get me wrong...I'm with you, but you generally seem to give guys the benefit of the doubt, i.e. you look at their glass as half full. I do as well, but you are much more schooled than I.

    So, what Reds "prospects" if any, does the forum still pimp, but you may have "given up" on. Hope this question makes sense.
    I don't think there is anyone that I have really given up on. I do think some guys get overrated by some posters (as I assume a lot think I overrated some guys).

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    Re: BA Midseason Top 25 Prospects

    Callis ranked the top prospect for each team, the #1 prospect for Cincinnati: TBA Todd Frazier.
    Graduations have thinned out the Reds system; first-round 1B Yonder Alonso will rank No. 1 upon his signing.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...08/266517.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Fever View Post
    Callis ranked the top prospect for each team, the #1 prospect for Cincinnati: TBA Todd Frazier.
    Graduations have thinned out the Reds system; first-round 1B Yonder Alonso will rank No. 1 upon his signing.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...08/266517.html
    They might of thinned out the top-tier prospects, but there is probably even more depth this year then last year...

    We graduated Homer, Votto, Bruce, Thompson...

    But have guys from this draft, and others stepping up big like soto, Lotzkar, etc...

    Not many have fallen off the map either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyredfan40 View Post
    They might of thinned out the top-tier prospects, but there is probably even more depth this year then last year...

    We graduated Homer, Votto, Bruce, Thompson...

    But have guys from this draft, and others stepping up big like soto, Lotzkar, etc...

    Not many have fallen off the map either...
    Thompson hasn't graduated. WE have graduated Homer, Votto, Bruce and Cueto though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Thompson hasn't graduated. WE have graduated Homer, Votto, Bruce and Cueto though.
    Meant to type Cueto, not Thompson...


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