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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    I'm a strong believer that about 0.001% of national announcers have any true "bias," and that 99.999% of those who allege it are paranoid.

    I'm neutral on Packer, but I don't think he, Vitale, or any of the talking heads people complain about are "biased."
    Packer sure sounded biased in the last NC...

    Not saying it had anything to do with him no longer being employed by CBS, but he was definitely calling a 1-sided game in the 1st half, and then sounded shocked it became a close game in the 2nd half...

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    I think Packer hated everyone equally. By the end of his run, I think he hated what College Hoops had become. He hated the slick coaches, hated the one and done guys, and hated the tattoos. Somehow, he took one of the most fun and exciting sporting events and turned it into a miserable experience.
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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    I'm a strong believer that about 0.001% of national announcers have any true "bias," and that 99.999% of those who allege it are paranoid.

    I'm neutral on Packer, but I don't think he, Vitale, or any of the talking heads people complain about are "biased."
    A list of things that Vitale commented on while he was supposed to be broadcasting the Louisville-UConn game back in 2007.

    Duke

    Mike Krzyzewski

    Duke (1986)

    Kansas

    Tennessee

    Bruce Pearl

    Chris Lofton

    Tennessee (Women's)

    Kentucky

    Tubby Smith

    Kentucky (1996)

    Kentucky (1997)

    Kentucky (1998)

    Pittsburgh

    Marquette

    St. John's

    Syracuse

    Providence

    New Mexico State

    Reggie Theus

    Nevada

    N.C. State (Women's)

    Kay Yow

    Boston University

    Indianapolis Colts

    Peyton Manning

    Louisville football team

    New York Yankees

    Villanova

    Maria Sharapova

    Oklahoma State

    Texas

    Texas Tech

    Indiana

    Texas A&M

    LSU

    Depaul

    Dobbins High School

    Brian Brohm

    Joe B. Hall

    Jay Bilas

    Sean Williams

    Al Skinner

    Marlon Garcia

    Frank Sinatra

    Illinois

    Lou Carnesecca

    Kevin Durant

    Greg Oden

    Alando Tucker
    Aaron Brooks

    Curry Kirkpatrick

    Arizona

    UCLA

    His grandson Hunter

    His grandson Jake

    Tony Dungy

    Joe Torre

    Derek Jeter

    Arizona (1997)

    Bill Parcells

    Brent Musberger

    Steve Lavin

    Eric Morgan

    DJ White

    Kelvin Sampson

    Ohio State

    Rece Davis

    Tom Brady

    Mike Anthony

    Norby Williamson

    Bo Derek

    Tom Crean

    Mario Boggan

    Jameson Curry

    North Carolina

    Howie Schwab

    Eva Longoria

    Rosie O'Donnell

    Donald Trump

    Jim Boeheim

    Bob Wright

    Dan Marino

    Jeff Jacobs

    John Saunders

    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

    Erin Andrews

    Bruce Weber

    Rick Bozich

    Wisconsin

    Bo Ryan

    Kammron Taylor

    Florida

    Georgetown

    Chris Dodd

    Digger Phelps

    Mike Tranghese

    Tony Bennett

    Dave Gavitt

    Danny Gavitt

    Andrew Bynum

    Sebastian Telfair

    Amir Johnson

    Scottie Reynolds

    Uconn (women's)

    John Vitale

    Christopher Vitale

    Justin Hawkins

    Utah

    Vernon Rule

    Jim Valvano

    Dee Rose

    Walt Trumble

    Jamal Mashburn

    Pennsylvania

    Detroit Pistons

    Larry Bird

    Magic Johnson

    J.R. Giddens

    Billy Gillespie

    Acie Law

    Nate Carter

    South Florida

    Robert McCallum

    Chicago Bears

    Lovie Smith

    Mike & Mike

    Dallas Cowboys

    Tom Izzo

    Dominic James

    Paul Harris

    Billy Donovan

    Larry Brown

    Lute Olson

    Eddie Sutton

    Gene Bartow

    Al McGuire

    Hugh Durham

    Roy Williams

    Frank Gardner

    Ron Franklin

    Fran Fraschilla

    Tommy Amaker

    Johnny Dawkins

    Danny Ferry

    Billy King

    Mark Alarie

    Awesome Baby (race horse)

    Tim Welsh

    Geoff McDermott

    Herbert Hill

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    the only thing Vitale is biased towards is attention and winning. Whoever is winning, that is who he is for. That's the way it is with the entire media in every sport. Everyone loves a winner and Vitale is not any different.
    "My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton

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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    I'm a strong believer that about 0.001% of national announcers have any true "bias," and that 99.999% of those who allege it are paranoid.

    I'm neutral on Packer, but I don't think he, Vitale, or any of the talking heads people complain about are "biased."
    Upon thinking about it, I'd tend to agree; but I'd also tend to point out that this is a highly semantic argument.

    "Bias" is done willfully, on purpose, with self-awareness; a lot of what the national sports pundits do is a bit more innocent. It's not "bias," but it is certainly "predisposition" and it's done cluelessly, and in many cases, with at least a tinge of ignorance. Perhaps not ignorance of the X's and O's of basketball (for an armchair jockey such as myself to suggest that would be foolish), but an ignorance of evolving trends, of one's place in the grand scheme of things, and of how stupid one looks when one becomes a caricature of oneself or dedicates one's existence to being a "personality" rather than an expert in one's field.

    I'll never accuse Packer of dipping to McCarver-esque levels, but the joy I feel at his dismissal is very real, and stems from the bias/predisposition-to-ignorance he showed a few years ago when St. Joe's got a #1 seed. God, what I would give to have Packer's too-long career eulogized by Phil Martelli....

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    I never though bias was Packer's problem. It was more that he was a total jackass on the air.
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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    I saw this in an article sounds like Packer is done broadcasting on any network. Don't expect him to change networks he is quitting doing Raycom games too.

    Packer also will end his long run as an analyst for Raycom, a regional network that covers the Atlantic Coast Conference.

    "I have had a chance to broadcast most of the great games since college basketball got on national television and I'm not interested in broadcasting any more games," he said. "I enjoyed doing that but I won't be any more."

    He said he is involved in a college basketball project that he'll discuss in a few months.

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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    JMO, but I think Nance does an excellent job on the NCAA Tourney broadcasts.

    Where's the love? It is not like he is to blame for "One Shining Moment"
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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    Quote Originally Posted by MWM View Post
    I never though bias was Packer's problem. It was more that he was a total jackass on the air.
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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    I was about to post this too. He long outlived his welcome. He became what seemed like tired old grouchy man. Not to mention his obvious bias towards the ACC. He was part of the best announcing team college basketball has had. He teamed along with Dick Enberg and Al McGuire for a few seasons while at NBC. I always laughed when McGuire would scold Packer for well......being Packer.
    My thoughts exactly. I thought he was good with Enberg and McGuire on NBC.

    But that was long ago. He needed to go many years back. Somewhere along the line, he grew way too curmudgeonly.

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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    As long as I don't have to hear him or another announcer say "Strenth" during a game, the world will be a better, less cliche place.

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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Blimpie View Post
    JMO, but I think Nance does an excellent job on the NCAA Tourney broadcasts.

    Where's the love? It is not like he is to blame for "One Shining Moment"
    Nantz broadcasts sound like a "Chicken Soup for the Basketball Soul". He is built for Golf and nothing else.
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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    I am elated that Packer got fired. I hate that moronic fool. He ruined many a great game of basketball.

    He is a clueless person convinced he knows everything. Good riddance Billy Packer!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    Quote Originally Posted by improbus View Post
    Nantz broadcasts sound like a "Chicken Soup for the Basketball Soul". He is built for Golf and nothing else.
    I totally agree. Golf or a studio host but not college basketball. Lundquist,IMO,is the best PBP guy CBS has for college basketball.
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    Re: Billy Packer out at CBS

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    I totally agree. Golf or a studio host but not college basketball. Lundquist,IMO,is the best PBP guy CBS has for college basketball.
    I'm a Raftery guy. He has the right amount of enthusiasm for the game, the right amount of perspective, and you can tell that the guy really loves his job. WWWWWWWWWith a Kiss.
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