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    Larkins speech.

    Barry's speech pissed me off. The thanking of the Nationals was clearly shot at the Reds. Sure the Reds management has been awful in the past but seem to finally be moving the right direction, but you don't make a comment like that just because your bitter. Especially if you want to come back like you say you do. And why honor the Wilson and Nike guys? I don't think Barry understands marketing and business at all (unless Nike and Wilson are still giving him some kinda cut). The end of Barry's career was also a little shaky, with the McKeon thing and all. Raise your hand if you wish Barry hadn't ran off McKeon. Remember who the Reds could have gotten in a trade for a near retirement Barry Larkin? Now, what would you as the Reds fan rather have; A: A good young exciting shortstop for years to come or B: Loyal Barry Larking who wants to play a little longer for the Reds and finish his career with his one and only. But Barry used his no trade clause, probably because "he is so loyal". Blah. Loyality isn't what I think about when I think Barry Larkin. I think of a guy who's afraid of change and misunderstands a professional relationship with friendship. Also, if he loves Cincy so much, why does has he been living in Florida during the off-season?

    Anyway, I'm just annoyed. Did anyone see Bench's reaction to Barry's speech going overtime? I was excited to see Bench toss out a first pitch against the Red Sox a while back, until I realized he had a book to promote. But anyway...they where both great players.

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    Re: Larkins speech.

    this is how the whole Barry Larking Saga breaks down:

    if you dont follow the "behind the scenes" part of baseball then you love Barry Larkin.

    If you do follow everything from the minor leagues to whhere the owner eats lunch, then you have some sort of hatred built up for BL.

    there is clearly a divided line of Reds fans that LOVE this guy more than any past reds player. My mom is one of them, she loves Barry Larking more than she loves my dad...BUT...she also has no idea who and what andwhy anything behind the scenes that goes on, she thinks Joe Nuxhall is still broadcasting. I personally feel BL is a true Red at heart but he is no differnt than any other primadonna baseball player, he thinks he is bigger than the game. I will never forget him telling the media that he dont care who he plays for or how much he makes as long as he is playing for a winner, then he goes and handcuffs the organization with a 9 mill contract. To me that just showed why he is no difference from Barry Larking to Barry Bonds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lidspinner View Post
    this is how the whole Barry Larking Saga breaks down:

    if you dont follow the "behind the scenes" part of baseball then you love Barry Larkin.

    If you do follow everything from the minor leagues to whhere the owner eats lunch, then you have some sort of hatred built up for BL.

    there is clearly a divided line of Reds fans that LOVE this guy more than any past reds player. My mom is one of them, she loves Barry Larking more than she loves my dad...BUT...she also has no idea who and what andwhy anything behind the scenes that goes on, she thinks Joe Nuxhall is still broadcasting. I personally feel BL is a true Red at heart but he is no differnt than any other primadonna baseball player, he thinks he is bigger than the game. I will never forget him telling the media that he dont care who he plays for or how much he makes as long as he is playing for a winner, then he goes and handcuffs the organization with a 9 mill contract. To me that just showed why he is no difference from Barry Larking to Barry Bonds.
    The irony of this post, you claim to follow behind the scenes in baseball so much, and yet you refer to Barry Larkin as "Larking" several times. If you follow so closely, I would think you would know the name of the best Reds player in the past 20 years.

    I would address your post further, but you clearly hold some kind of bias against him that isn't worth arguing against, which is shown by the preposterous Bonds comparison.
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    Re: Larkins speech.

    "First and most of all, I'd like to thank Jim Bowden for enabling my front office career, even while I was still playing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsj017 View Post
    "First and most of all, I'd like to thank Jim Bowden for enabling my front office career, even while I was still playing."
    Mentioning/thanking Jim Bowden in any situation just makes the speaker look stupid.

    I've learned more than I wanted to know about Barry Larkin in the last year.

    1. Heard from a reliable source that Carl Lindner's biggest regret was signing BL to that $9 million contract. Thought he was doing what the fans wanted, but found out later it was a big mistake.

    2. Heard from reliable sources that BL was a huge cancer in the clubhouse in his later years.

    3. Heard that BL and KGJ had alot of animosity toward Sean Casey. Apparently didn't like how good Sean was to the fans and resented him for it. They tried to rule the clubhouse and certain young players, including Casey, did their own thing (the right thing).

    4. Heard from reliable source that BL had a huge negative impact on the attitudes of Dunn and Kearns when they first came up.

    5. Heard that the Reds don't want anything to do with Barry Larkin and his primadonna attitude.
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    I hope Lark enjoyed yesterday's Reds Hall induction ceremony. It's the only Hall of Fame he'll ever be part of.
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    I was in attendance on Saturday and found Barry's speech to be at the very least, weird. It almost was as if Barry was campaigning to be a part of the Reds front office or heck, maybe even the President of the US....overall, though, the Hall of Fame festivities were fun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBruce32 View Post
    I hope Lark enjoyed yesterday's Reds Hall induction ceremony. It's the only Hall of Fame he'll ever be part of.
    I am not so sure about that. Why hate on Larkin?
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    Re: Larkins speech.

    while the speech was a little long, it was definitely heartfelt, cut the guy some slack

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    Yeah, he sure cut the Reds some slack when he whined for his $9 mill contract when he clearly was on the downside of his career.

    The Reds and Bengals need to quit with these "loyalty" contracts. It just kills the team with nonquality payroll. Big Willie on the Bengals was a loyalty signing that has not panned out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TC81190 View Post
    The irony of this post, you claim to follow behind the scenes in baseball so much, and yet you refer to Barry Larkin as "Larking" several times. If you follow so closely, I would think you would know the name of the best Reds player in the past 20 years.

    I would address your post further, but you clearly hold some kind of bias against him that isn't worth arguing against, which is shown by the preposterous Bonds comparison.
    first of all my fellow red fan, when you post from a at&t Tilt, the phone puts letters where they think they should be, if I hit the space bar to quick then I often times mispell words without knowing. It also does not spell check for me without me telling it to. I have broke bread with Barrie Larking pal, I know his name. I also know that he is arrogant to the average fan. I also know he has no respect for the reds organization and if you talk to ANYONE in baseball, they will tell you that Berry Larkeing has NO RESPECT for the reds. With that said........Bare Lrkain is one of my favorite PLAYERS, not player/persons, PLAYERS that has ever doned the Reds uniform. I will wear my BL jersey with a smile on my face each and every time I wear it. I do however, have a small bone to pick with him but that does not stop me form enjoying his on the diamond accomplishments.

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    Re: Larkins speech.

    [QUOTE=ChatterRed;1698482]Mentioning/thanking Jim Bowden in any situation just makes the speaker look stupid.

    Irony that you mentioned his name in your first sentance then; after all, you did say ANY situation makes the speaker look stupid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChatterRed View Post
    Yeah, he sure cut the Reds some slack when he whined for his $9 mill contract when he clearly was on the downside of his career.

    The Reds and Bengals need to quit with these "loyalty" contracts. It just kills the team with nonquality payroll. Big Willie on the Bengals was a loyalty signing that has not panned out.
    Say what you want about the 3yr/9m contract, but he also took a hometown discount in the years preceding that contract.

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    I loved Larkin as a SS, but have always had serious problems with his off-the-field behavior. The McKeown thing being the biggest example. I have another memory of a Larkin-ism, but cannot find anyone to substantiate it. Do any of you remember this?

    It was the late 80's (87?) when Larkin was vying with Kurt Stillwell during spring training for the SS position. There was talk of moving one of them to 2nd. Larkin was quoted as saying "I won't play second base", or something to that effect. I remember this because I thought "what is this rookie doing telling people where he will and won't play"?

    It should have been a warning sign. Turns out Larkin showed that kind of attitude/leadership throughout his career.
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    Re: Larkins speech.

    [QUOTE=bounty37h;1698998]
    Quote Originally Posted by ChatterRed View Post
    Mentioning/thanking Jim Bowden in any situation just makes the speaker look stupid.

    Irony that you mentioned his name in your first sentance then; after all, you did say ANY situation makes the speaker look stupid...

    I didn't speak it. I typed it. Big difference. :
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