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    So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    Apparently, it's pretty close...

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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    Good. Good for the Reds.
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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    Good. Good for the Reds.
    He owned us earlier this season. Remember, mediocre left handers vs. Reds = Hall of Famers.

    Dave Williams anyone?
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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    They're winning now. No... For reals. Within 3 years, the Astros will be the new Pirates.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    Quote Originally Posted by LvJ View Post
    He owned us earlier this season. Remember, mediocre left handers vs. Reds = Hall of Famers.

    Dave Williams anyone?
    Ah, but the rest of the league will continue to crush him, and the losses will mount for Houston. Thus, it's good for the Reds.
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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    if you look at their farm system and lack of young talent on the major league roster ... win now looks like the only option they have.
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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    How is that Jason Jennings deal looking now?
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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    How is that Jason Jennings deal looking now?
    They've dumped a LOT of young talent in the last couple years, and some solid veterans as well.

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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Within 3 years, the Astros will be the new Pirates.
    new Reds?

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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton View Post
    new Reds?
    Well, the new late-Bowden era Reds. They've already got their Griffey Jr in Carlos Lee and their Larkin in Tejada. The cycling through broken down starters and mediocre prospects has already begun.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    Reds have a winning record against lefties this season, 19-18. As for Wolf, he's a completely different pitcher in Petco Park compared to when he pitches on the road.

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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    if you look at their farm system and lack of young talent on the major league roster ... becoming the NL's version of the Royals looks like the only option they have.
    Fixed.

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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    Put bluntly, Houston is out of options. They've got absolutely no help in the minors, and their paper-thin rotation is hitting the disabled list. I'd been telling all my co-workers this past off-season that these pickups they did would come back and bite them in the rear. They already had a weak farm system, and they drained it completely to pick up those off-season pickups. Bad, bad moves.

    ~Houston acquired pitcher Jose Valverde from the Arizona Diamondbacks for infielder Chris Burke and pitchers Juan Gutierrez and Chad Qualls.

    ~Houston acquired pitchers Jason Jennings and Miguel Asencio from the Colorado Rockies for outfielder Willy Taveras and pitchers Taylor Buchholz and Jason Hirsh.

    ~Traded pitcher Brad Lidge and infielder Eric Bruntlett to the Philadelphia Phillies for pitcher Geoff Geary, outfielder Michael Bourn and third baseman Mike Costanzo.

    ~Traded Dan Wheeler (P) to TB-A for Ty Wigginton (IF) and cash

    ~Traded Matt Albers (P), Troy Patton (P), Dennis Sarfate (P), Luke Scott (OF) and Mike Constanzo (IF) to Bal-A for Miguel Tejada (IF)

    These are some deals in the past couple of years that have really hurt this team's future. Not that I'm complaining. :O) But that's a ton of young talent that they dealt away for very little in return IMO. Wigginton & Tejada have been fairly strong, but they simply dealt away players in positions they didn't have any depth in. Horrible farm system/roster management to say the least.
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    Re: So why is Houston trading for Wolf?

    DisAstros get Wolf [/URL]for 26 y/o RHP Chad Reineke, who was very good in his last 25 IP in 2007 out of the pen and then inexplicably moved back to the rotation in 2008.

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