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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Just because your dad's was a decent GM, doesn't make you one.

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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Quote Originally Posted by Heath View Post
    Just because your dad's was a decent GM, doesn't make you one.

    /baseball nepotism
    Ask Dave Shula.

    Different sport...different position.....same idea.

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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Just because everybody HATES this deal...I will call it a good move. Don't ask me to elaborate, because I have nothing...

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    I don't hate it-- there are good assistants that make bad bosses. How would I know how good/bad Bavasi is at the job for which he's been hired

    and that's how I plan to think until Jocketty either gets pushed out or fed up...

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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Let's hope this role is much better suited for him

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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Let's hope this role is much better suited for him
    If the role involves analyzing baseball players, it probably isn't a good fit.

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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Let's hope this role is much better suited for him
    Why would this team want to hire men whom have already failed in baseball?

    Aren't there enough of them on the field of play?
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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Bring Back Dan O
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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Uncle.
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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    This is the worst news I've heard in a long time. In what way can Bavasi possibly help Walt improve this team? He just single-handedly ran the Mariners into the ground and that somehow now qualifies him for another job? This is the old boy's network at its worst. The Reds continue to be the prime example of how anti-Moneyball logic is still alive and well.
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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    What does a Special Assistant to the General Manager actually do?
    Take the then acting GM's job.

    This team is on their 4th GM in 6 years. So you have to keep something back in reserve in the system.

    Even Patton needed a backup plan at Gettysburg.

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    I too think Walt's a goner. Meaning, he'll just step down and retire, IMO.
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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    The only explanation I can find for such a move is that Walt Jocketty doesn't want to continue much longer in the post, for whatever reason. Bavasi is getting a chance to familiarize himself with the team before taking over.

    Sorry...but that's what it looks like.
    After Jocketty took over, there was an article (interview) with Jocketty inwhich he said that he and Bob didn't have anything in writing (contract-wise); but have a verbal (hand shake) commitment until 2011.

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    I too think Walt's a goner. Meaning, he'll just step down and retire, IMO.
    Then why hire the guy in the first place (if true)?

    If Walt vacates the role, while making no great improvements to this team, or maybe because he has had a change of heart, no longer wants the job, nor is up for the task at hand, then this one one huge misstep by Castellini IMHO.

    And then they are possibly going to turn it ove to this dufus?

    THE GUY JUST GOT FIRED because of his poor performance and his team has one of the worst records in MLB. Do we need to list the bad player decisions this guy has made during his tenure with the Ms?

    Geez!
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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    The Reds are officially the Orioles West. Sad. But not unexpected.
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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    After Jocketty took over, there was an article (interview) with Jocketty inwhich he said that he and Bob didn't have anything in writing (contract-wise); but have a verbal (hand shake) commitment until 2011.



    Then why hire the guy in the first place (if true)?

    If Walt vacates the role, while making no great improvements to this team, or maybe because he has had a change of heart, no longer wants the job, nor is up for the task at hand, then this one one huge misstep by Castellini IMHO.

    And then they are possibly going to turn it ove to this dufus?

    THE GUY JUST GOT FIRED because of his poor performance and his team has one of the worst records in MLB. Do we need to list the bad player decisions this guy has made during his tenure with the Ms?

    Geez!
    I don't think Walt's heart is in it. This deadline was way too quiet for him. I think it's a simple change of heart. I don't blame him; even under the best conditions, this team is years away from contention.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if Walt wanted to trade some principals (Dunn/Arroyo), but got shot down by Cast, so Walt's saying "Forget it."
    Last edited by Falls City Beer; 08-08-2008 at 07:47 PM.
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    Re: Reds hire Bill Bavasi...as special assistant to the GM

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Unfrigginbelievable.
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