Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
Brandon Webb is a smart guy."It's going to be good," said pitcher Brandon Webb. "He's a guy that produces a lot of runs, he draws some walks and has a good on-base percentage. I don't know where they're going to stick him, but wherever it is, he's going to do some damage."
I miss Adam Dunn.
It's time to get some sleep. Let me know what I miss. Probably not much...
Hope Springs Eternal
Half the time I feel like my personality isn't accurately reflected by my image on the screen when I'm Skyping with family; I can't imagine how mortified I'd be watching what I looked like playing baseball every day! Personal issues aside, what I'm trying to say is that we CAN'T tell who these people are from how they carry themselves... and we sure as heck can't tell how they are affecting each other just by whether they pat each other on the backs or glare at each other in the dugout in a TV closeup.
I heard that Greg Vaughn was an "intimidator" and a "winner" in 1999 and that is why the team won. Baloney! I think that's much less likely than the fact that he hit a boatload of HR down the stretch--and that the team had a darn good pitching staff and a good defense to back it up. We have to stop thinking we can judge personalities just based on the small sample size of images and impressions we get as fans.
"Iíll kind of have a foot on the back of my own butt. Thatís just how I do things.Ē -- Bryan Price, 10/22/2013
The Reds can acquire all the "winning attitudes" in the world but if you don't have the players to go along with them then the "winning attitudes" will go south quick.
But I do think having guys like Doran, Duncan, Hatcher etc..in the clubhouse will help show the younger guys what a winning attitude is all about. Thats the easy part, finding more Larkins, Dibbles, Davis and Rijo's is the hard part.
"Boys, I'm one of those umpires that misses 'em every once in a while so if it's close, you'd better hit it." Cal Hubbard
Whitesell interests me quite a bit.
He's a late bloomer (I think he was recently claimed off waivers by the Nats before the year, wasn't in their top 30 at the beginning of the year), but the guy has a clue what he's doing at the plate.
His numbers are great this year, partially because of the PCL, but I think the breakout is for real. He's 26 and ready made. The entire package almost reminds me to Votto as a hitter. More walks, but also more Ks as the trade off. 25 homer type of power ceiling. I think he'll hit.
The problem I see is where to play these guys. I really believe in Votto's defense at first, and all things equal I'd like to see him stick there (and from all reports Votto's defense in AAA LF was nothing short of awful last season). Is there any thought that Whitesell could transition to LF? His defense at first looks a tad suspect, but LF is about as easy a position to play as it gets. His bat should play, so if he could make the switch, I'd be pretty happy to add a bat like that to the lineup.
Jocketty begins molding Reds in his image
By Hal McCoy
Tuesday, August 12, 2008
When they design the 2009 Cincinnati Reds uniforms, they should replace the wishbone 'C' on the chest with a picture of Reds General Manager Walt Jocketty.
It is going to be his team, a team in his image.
That became evident over the past few days when he traded Ken Griffey Jr. and Adam Dunn and designated David Ross for assignment. Believe me, there is more to come.
By disposing of the two most visible franchise faces ó Griffey and Dunn ó Jocketty is cleansing eight years of losing spirits. It is his own TV reality show: Starting Over.
Dunn was sent to the Arizona Diamondbacks on Monday, Aug. 11, for minor-league pitcher Dallas Buck and two players to be named later.
Now what? Well, the 2008 season has been a quagmire for months and it will only get worse because Jocketty didn't get anything in return for this year's team. The white flag couldn't be bigger or whiter.
Jocketty is gathering low-level minor-league players, which sniffs of another long rebuilding process and another tenure that says, "Be patient." Most fans ran out of patience years ago.
The upcoming offseason shall tell the tale. If the Reds go after big-ticket free agents, then maybe they are living up to what owner Bob Castellini said when he fired GM Wayne Krivsky early this season: "We will not lose anymore."
Well, they kept losing. And losing and losing and losing. Lately they've played with the interest a dog has in cabbage and broccoli. Sniff, sniff ó not interested.
With the losing comes disinterest at the gate. How many camouflage shirts, lunch boxes, ladies ball caps, build-a-bears and $1 hot dogs can they offer to lure people in to see ... what?
The break-even point this year was 2.4 million fans. That isn't going to happen. So will the Reds have money to pursue top-shelf free agents, compete with the New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox, Chicago Cubs and Los Angeles Dodgers?
That's doubtful. That means a long rebuilding process. Again. Patience, please.
It is for sure that the Reds put together eight straight losing seasons with Griffey and Dunn in the lineup, but blaming them for it is like blaming the weather man for the rain.
They didn't win with them, so dump them. But who replaces about 70 home runs and about 180 RBIs every year? They are left with Edwin Encarnacion (unless they trade him, too), who is even less consistent than Dunn, and Brandon Phillips, a guy batting fourth who shouldn't be batting fourth.
They have young players like Joey Votto and Jay Bruce, but they need more. Much more. They have what most thought would be a glorious pitching staff in Aaron Harang, Bronson Arroyo, Edinson Volquez, Johnny Cueto and Homer Bailey. How'd that turn out?
Jocketty stayed quiet and in the background for nearly three months. Now he has thrust his will into the picture. For those with season tickets, all one can say for the rest of the year is, "Hang with 'em and good luck."
And to Jocketty? While searching for players this offseason, find your best photo for the team's jerseys. It's your baby.
Adam Dunn has hit 270 home runs since arriving in the major leagues with the Cincinnati Reds in 2001. Here's where he stands on the Reds' all-time list:
1. Johnny Bench (1967-83) . . . 389
2. Frank Robinson (1956-65) . . . 324
3. Tony Perez
(1964-76), (1984-86) . . . 287
4. Adam Dunn (2001-08) . . . 270
5. Ted Kluszewski (1947-57) . . . 251
Among best in MLB
In the last six seasons, two major leaguers have hit more home runs than Dunn. Homers from 2003 to present:
Alex Rodriguez, Yankees . . . 246
Albert Pujols, Cardinals . . . 235
Adam Dunn, Reds . . . 225
David Ortiz, Red Sox . . . 222
I miss Adam Dunn.
"Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."
I can't believe this.
"My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton
Walt Jocketty struck gold when he hung onto a struggling pitcher named Rick Ankiel and had him converted to an everyday player...
...maybe he's seeing yet another opportunity to take two bites at the apple with a player, once as a pitcher and once as a hitter, with Micah Owings.
24 Years and Counting...
Expecting any player to serve in both capacities is quite a bit to ask. That most could not appreciate Dunn for what he could provide saddens me.
It was not that Dunn could not lead the great talent around him. It's that there was little talent around for him to lead. We could easily argue that we'll never know what kind of leader Dunn could have been, both due to the lack of talent to lead and to his position as requisite 2nd fiddle to Junior.
I don't think we've had the opportunity to see whether or not Dunn could be the/a centerpiece. He was never given the chance, not by Reds management, certainly not by Reds announcers, and not by Reds fans.
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Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
I do think it's interesting that Whitesell didn't play tonight. I think that could be an indication that he is one of the the two players to be named later. Like AK said earlier, Whitesell is a late bloomer having turned 26 years old a few months back. He's currently hitting .331/.428/.564 - .992 in AAA and is major league ready. Maybe Jocketty thinks he is another late bloomer in the mold of Ryan Ludwick, who Walt acquired when he was with St. Louis. A package of Dallas Buck/Micah Owings/Josh Whitesell wouldn't be a bad return at all IMO.
I miss Adam Dunn.