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    Looking back to what it could of been...

    I logged into my old photobucket account the other day and saw this... I just said Wow... Times sure do change in 6 years...

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    They've both put on way too many lbs since then. I expect some weight to appear in a player's late 20s/early 30s but these guys put on 25-30 lbs before they were 25.

    Kearns has really been a disappointment. I recall when they were coming up and we were enjoying Dunn, Adam said "just wait 'till Kearns gets here. He's better than me." I think he was. I don't know if it was that collision with Ray King or just a case of a guy peaking at age 24 but Kearns was supposed to be a perennial All Star.

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    Re: Looking back to what it could of been...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    They've both put on way too many lbs since then. I expect some weight to appear in a player's late 20s/early 30s but these guys put on 25-30 lbs before they were 25.
    They could be doing NutriSystem commercials with Golic.

    And no regrets on Kearns at all.

    If people are going to say they are glad Dunn is gone because of "holes in his game", then how can they defend an Austin Kearns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    If people are going to say they are glad Dunn is gone because of "holes in his game", then how can they defend an Austin Kearns?
    I know Redszone puts players who have come up through our own system on a pedistal, but the love thrown around for Austin Kearns even still to this day boggles my mind.

    Try these numbers out for size:

    Austin Kearns 2008- .221/.308/.317 with 6 homers and 30 RBI at $5 million.

    Corey Patterson 2008- .197/.227/.348 with 9 homers and 21 RBI at $3 million.

    Austin Kearns is not a good player. Period. If the Reds signed a player with Kearns' numbers at Kearns' salary from outside the organization there would be a 20 page thread calling for Walt Jocketty's head.

    Awhile back I remember reading a number of posters saying they'd love to bring Austin back into the fold for 2009 even at the inflated salary he'll be due (can't remember what he's due to make next year). This is just foolishness. Yes, he can play a pretty good defensive outfield, but come on now.
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    I really don't understand what anyone is talking about regarding Dunn being overweight. I don't see it.

    I keep reading it and hearing it on call-in shows from his detractors, but I don't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    I really don't understand what anyone is talking about regarding Dunn being overweight. I don't see it.

    I keep reading it and hearing it on call-in shows from his detractors, but I don't see it.
    Gosh we all should look the same as we did at 21.... did you miss the memo?

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    Re: Looking back to what it could of been...

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    I really don't understand what anyone is talking about regarding Dunn being overweight. I don't see it.

    I keep reading it and hearing it on call-in shows from his detractors, but I don't see it.
    Well he was listed at 240 lbs when he broke in and now he's listed at 275 on MLB.com. He's not sculpted like Glenn Braggs so I'd say that's not 35 lbs of muscle that he added at the gym. 275 is pretty heavy even if you're 6'6".

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    They both had BRM haircuts. That is what went wrong, they let their hair grow.

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    Re: Looking back to what it could of been...

    2006




    2008


    He's slimmer now.
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    Austin Kearns is reason enough not to annoit Jay Bruce the savior of the franchise just yet.

    Let Bruce develop into it....don't appoint him it.
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    Re: Looking back to what it could of been...

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfan30 View Post
    Austin Kearns is reason enough not to annoit Jay Bruce the savior of the franchise just yet.

    Let Bruce develop into it....don't appoint him it.
    Kearns was a highly thought of prospect that's value to Cincy was inflated because of his local ties. He burst onto the scene but never made the proper adjsutments or his shoulder never regained the form after Ray King.

    Dunn on the other hand looked like a HOF in his early career but after the 2002 AS break he never seemed to get back to that early level. Dunn's first half of 02 was unreal; .300 BA, .452 OBP, .544 Slugging. It seemed like the league made some adjustments that Dunn has failed to make.

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    Re: Looking back to what it could of been...

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Dunn on the other hand looked like a HOF in his early career but after the 2002 AS break he never seemed to get back to that early level. Dunn's first half of 02 was unreal; .300 BA, .452 OBP, .544 Slugging. It seemed like the league made some adjustments that Dunn has failed to make.
    My theory, and with some anecdotal evidence to support, is that coaches kept trying to "fix" Adam to get him to stop striking out so much. Every new hitting coach or manager that came in (and there were a lot of them) thought they could "fix" him. Dumbest decision ever.
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    Re: Looking back to what it could of been...

    Quote Originally Posted by MWM View Post
    My theory, and with some anecdotal evidence to support, is that coaches kept trying to "fix" Adam to get him to stop striking out so much. Every new hitting coach or manager that came in (and there were a lot of them) thought they could "fix" him. Dumbest decision ever.
    True enough. There were too many cooks in Adam's kitchen so to say over the past seven years.
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    I remember there being an article back in 2002 talking about Jim Bowden wanting Dunn to start pulling the ball more in order to hit for more power. I thought it was foolish at the time because Dunn was still hitting for power and was hitting up in the .310-.320 range with an OBP in the .460 area and an OPS over 1.000, yet Bowden wanted him to pull the ball more. That doesn't surprise me though considering how awful of a GM Bowden is/was. Dunn was never that same hitter after that. All those different hitting coaches didn't help matters either.

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    OT- i do like those helmets as opposed to the cool-flo ones they wear now. But again, I'm a geek.
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