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    Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    Sorry if already posted in another thread. From the Tallahassee Democrat today:

    About 52 hours shy of the deadline for major league clubs to sign their draft choices, the 35th-round pick in the MLB June draft informed Martin of his decision. His signing bonus is expected to be around $250,000.

    “Certainly this is a big blow to our club,” Martin said 20 minutes after talking with Fairel. “We just lost our No. 1 pitcher. I talked to Matt and it’s done, he’s gone. He’s signing. Two days before deadline. No way are we going to be able to find a player to replace him at this point.

    “Cincinnati had some money to work with and they are giving him fourth-round money as a 35th-round draft choice. No way did I dream that Matt Fairel was going to sign.”

    The lefthander emerged as FSU's top pitcher in 2008 with a 12-2 record and 3.79 ERA. He struck out 100 opposing batters.

    Although Fairel was just a sophomore last season, he was eligible for the draft because his birthday fell within MLB draft-eligibility rules.
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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    Alonso is definitely not signing.

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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    Alonso is definitely not signing.
    That could be money saved in the Griffey or Dunn deals -- not necessarily coming out of the allocation for Alonso. Though my gut says the same thing...
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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    Reds bottom fishing for lefties, any lefties at all-- none picked in top 12 rounds, but picked and signed ones late in draft: rounds 13, 19, 34, 35, 41 and 43.

    out of top 12 picks in three drafts, only Travis Webb (a no. 8 pick) and Drew Bowman (a no. 5) were selected. Two lefties in 36 picks.

    Results: no lefties in organization

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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton View Post
    Reds bottom fishing for lefties, any lefties at all-- none picked in top 12 rounds, but picked and signed ones late in draft: rounds 13, 19, 34, 35, 41 and 43.

    out of top 12 picks in three drafts, only Travis Webb (a no. 8 pick) and Drew Bowman (a no. 5) were selected. Two lefties in 36 picks.

    Results: no lefties in organization
    Maybe the Reds haven't invested heavily in left-handers because they haven't needed to.

    Blaine Howell (13th round) has a 1.35 ERA this year and is looking very good.

    Mace Thurman (19th round) signed for above slot money and has already been promoted to A-ball after completely dominating at Billings.

    Bryan Gardner (34th round) isn't exactly blowing people away, but he has a respectable 4.50 ERA and 18 strikeouts over 18 innings in the GCL.

    Matt Fairel (35th round) just signed for above slot money, and we've yet to see what he can do.

    David Torcise (47th round) has a 1.71 ERA and 1.10 WHIP over 21 innings this year.

    Joe Krebs (14th round), who has 49 strikeouts in 40 innings this year, was drafted last year and is already in Sarasota.

    Shea Snowden (16th round) has been the GCL Reds' best pitcher with a 1.50 ERA and 1.06 WHIP over 36 innings.

    Jeremy Horst (21st round) has been amazing this year with a 1.00 WHIP and 96 strikeouts over 85.2 innings.

    Lee Tabor was drafted two years ago in the 30th round and is already in Chattanooga.

    Jamie Arneson was a 16th rounder, but he was paid like a 4th rounder, so I wouldn't count him as the Reds not investing in left-handers.

    Tzu-Kai Chiu was signed as an amateur free agent (for second round money, iIrc) and has a 3.34 ERA and 1.13 WHIP over 56.2 professional innings.

    Matteo Pizziconi was signed out of Italy last year and has given up only one earned run over 17.2 innings.

    Luca Panerati, also out of Italy, has a 1.50 ERA and 1.00 WHIP over 12 innings.

    Aguido Gonzalez was signed just last year and all he has done this year is throw 30 innings without giving up an earned run.

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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    now here comes the interesting part... Now that we are getting more flush with talent... Where do we put them all? I mean look at the starting rotation candidates for Dayton next year:

    Lotzkar
    Castro
    Astorga
    Janke
    Shunick
    Garcia
    Arneson
    Ravin - who could be gone
    Bowman
    Guerrero - Ditto
    Hildenbrandt
    Snowden
    Fairel
    Sulbaran
    Chiu
    Cline

    Not to mention the guys still in the Dominican like De La Rosa, Machuca, Marizan, Correa (If he comes back from his 50 gamer still a red), and Aquino who better be in Dayton next year. I bet there still is 4 or 5 more possibles that I left off.

    I mean 3 years ago it was Bailey - Cueto and ... We are filthy rich in pitching in the low minors. 5 years ago if our #1 pitching prospect hurt himself it was like oh no. Wait til the next draft to get a pitcher.

    The guys in A+ and AA better find their stride cause a truckload of pitching is developing. Guys won't be given 2 and 3 years to develop at the A or A+ ball level anymore. Find that relese point or be released.

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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    [QUOTE=princeton;1722987]

    out of top 12 picks in three drafts, only Travis Webb (a no. 8 pick) and Drew Bowman (a no. 5) were selected. Two lefties in 36 picks.

    Maybe this signals a new emphasis on LH pitching. Fairel's stats suggest that had he declared his intention to turn pro in advance of the draft, he would have gone around the fourth round. That would also be consistent with the money the Reds offered.

    Overall, I am impressed by the Reds ability to finesse two relatively high draft choices by pursuing kids that other clubs had given up on.

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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    Quote Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT View Post
    Fairel's stats suggest that had he declared his intention to turn pro in advance of the draft, he would have gone around the fourth round. That would also be consistent with the money the Reds offered..
    1. you don't draft on stats

    2. the last 2 years, we've been giving guys money that didn't match their talent if they have enough leverage. by extrapolation, if Fairel signed for 4th round money, it may mean that he has 12th round talent.

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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    That is a great signing. I didn't think the Reds had a shot. That coach sounded pretty damn bitter. LOL!!

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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    Sounds like the Reds got a lot of good pitchers.
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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    That coach sounded depressed.
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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    Yea, I think the Reds realized that have no chance with Alonso and are beginning to spread his bonus out to other players. Get Pfisterer and Bandilla signed and don't let the door hit ya in the backside Yonder.

    Nice job.

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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    It's only fair. UF loses one, so FSU's gotta lose one.

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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gainesville Red View Post
    It's only fair. UF loses one, so FSU's gotta lose one.
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    Re: Another late-rounder, Matt Fairel, signs

    Wow. Fairel and Sulbaran. That is really unusual and exciting, too. The backend of this draft may end up much better than the front end.


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