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    What to do with Harang

    Do you let him continue to go out there and get his brains beat in or do you let him go on the DL for the last month and a half and tell him to get everything checked out?

    I take the later, no pitcher that looked that good last year, could suddenly be this bad right? I have a hard time coming up with a good parellel career arc but maybe someone can help me with that. If he is not injured, though what does that do for next year? Now you need at least two starters to go with Voloquez, Cueto and Arroyo. Plus a catcher, and at least one outfielder, but really two.

    Walt and Bavasi really have their work cut out for them.

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    Re: What to do with Harang

    I hang Harang up for the year.
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    Re: What to do with Harang

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    I hang Harang up for the year.
    Might need him for an extra innings game though.

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    Re: What to do with Harang

    If it's not physical, is shutting him down the best idea?

    It might be physical, I don't know.

    I do know we have to have someone up here to throw innings if he's shut down.
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    Re: What to do with Harang

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62 View Post
    I do know we have to have someone up here to throw innings if he's shut down.
    I'm available. I can get my brains beat in just as well as anyone.
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    Re: What to do with Harang

    It depends on if he's still hurt or just needs work.
    If he's hurt then put him on the DL, if he needs work then talk to him about going to the minors to work some things out like the Phillies did with Brett Myers.

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    Re: What to do with Harang

    He claims it's not physical, and after hearing him tonight on the post-game, I believe him. He says it's command and I think he's right. Shutting him down might do more damage than letting him work through this. The Reds aren't going to win anything this year anyway. The Reds have a rookie at first, another in left or center and another behind the plate, not to mention two starting pitchers in their first full year. IF they're sure it's not physical, let him pitch. It's not as if there is anything better to put in his place. If it is physical, that's another matter.
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    Re: What to do with Harang

    I would shut him down for the year. What is there to prove at this point?
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    Re: What to do with Harang

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    He claims it's not physical, and after hearing him tonight on the post-game, I believe him. He says it's command and I think he's right. Shutting him down might do more damage than letting him work through this. The Reds aren't going to win anything this year anyway. The Reds have a rookie at first, another in left or center and another behind the plate, not to mention two starting pitchers in their first full year. IF they're sure it's not physical, let him pitch. It's not as if there is anything better to put in his place. If it is physical, that's another matter.
    I think he's right about the problem being command. He wasn't hitting his spots at all. On the pitch that Schumaker hit for a home run, Hanigan set up on the outside corner at the knees, and had to lunge to the inside, where the ball was belt high on the inside corner.
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    Re: What to do with Harang

    Shut him down. Livingston is back, right?
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    Re: What to do with Harang

    His command was a definate problem, but he was certainly lacking velocity. He was in the mid to upper 80's. There is a problem, and I believe it is physical.
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    Re: What to do with Harang

    Harang just took an MRI which reportedly was normal except for the forearm thing. He says he feels good. I guess I don't understand the point of shutting him down in mid August.

    If it were me, I'd probably send Harang on another rehab assignment and let him pitch in the minor leagues for a couple of starts. See if he gets sharper. Then see where we are.

    Harang missed a lot of time, he needs to build up his arm strength and his command. I don't see how that gets accomplished on the sidelines.

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    Re: What to do with Harang

    The easy answer, as many have said is shut him down.

    However, if he is cleared medically and the MRI checks out...it is very possible that it could just be a mechanical issue.

    Due diligence must be done. Talk to Aaron. Talk to the medical staff. Take a look at the videotapes, etc.... Then, come to the best conclusion based on all the information you have complied. None of us have all that info, so the best we can do is speculate.

    Something is wrong with Aaron, I don't dispute that. However, if it is mechanical, I'd rather have him work thru the kinks now as compared to doing it next season. Shutting him down now could result in him starting off next season behind schedule, i.e. there is/could be a drawback to shutting him down.

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    Re: What to do with Harang

    Harang now has a 9.00+ ERA since his relief appearance. Ouch.

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    Re: What to do with Harang

    No way Harang is not hurt. Shut him down and get the problem fixed.
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