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    Dave Duncan

    Bernie Miklasz, St Louis Post Dispatch:

    The contract of Cardinals pitching coach Dave Duncan expires after the season. Will he return? Cardinals management would be making a big mistake to assume it's automatic
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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Bernie Miklasz, St Louis Post Dispatch:
    The contract of Cardinals pitching coach Dave Duncan expires after the season. Will he return? Cardinals management would be making a big mistake to assume it's automatic
    Duncan will be there as long as LaRussa is the manager.
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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    Duncan will be there as long as LaRussa is the manager.
    Yup. Unless LaRussa gets fired this offseason, Dunk ain't going anywhere.
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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life View Post
    Yup. Unless LaRussa gets fired this offseason, Dunk ain't going anywhere.
    They are package deal, LaRussa lost the White Sox job because Hawk Harrelson hired his guy and fired Duncan.

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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    They are package deal, LaRussa lost the White Sox job because Hawk Harrelson hired his guy and fired Duncan.
    LaRussa has a contract for next season, which he can be forced to honor, even if they don't re-up Duncan.

    In any case, I don't see any reason why St. Louis won't offer him a new contract. They'd be stupid to let him go.
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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life View Post
    LaRussa has a contract for next season, which he can be forced to honor, even if they don't re-up Duncan.

    In any case, I don't see any reason why St. Louis won't offer him a new contract. They'd be stupid to let him go.
    They guy is simply the best there is. You let him go.... you have problems.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life View Post
    LaRussa has a contract for next season, which he can be forced to honor, even if they don't re-up Duncan.

    In any case, I don't see any reason why St. Louis won't offer him a new contract. They'd be stupid to let him go.
    If Duncan doesn't come back to the Cards I would bet Larussa will "retire" than to comeback without his right arm (Duncan).
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    Re: Dave Duncan

    I doubt either will be seen around here, Dusty is Bob's man
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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    I doubt either will be seen around here, Dusty is Bob's man
    Nah. If Larussa or Duncan were available and Bob could afford them, they'd be here in a heartbeat. Dusty was the consolation prize. That's pretty much public knowledge.

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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Nah. If Larussa or Duncan were available and Bob could afford them, they'd be here in a heartbeat. Dusty was the consolation prize. That's pretty much public knowledge.
    I'd have rather had a years worth of cat litter.
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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    I'd have rather had a years worth of cat litter.
    You are great under valuing kitty litter. Did you mean 'used' kitty litter?
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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Forget about Duncan.

    Go after Mazzone. Walt of all people should know the value of an elite pitching coach.
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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    Forget about Duncan.

    Go after Mazzone. Walt of all people should know the value of an elite pitching coach.
    Part of me wonders if Jocketty believes it was DD, or his masterful ability to acquire dreck with potential.
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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    Part of me wonders if Jocketty believes it was DD, or his masterful ability to acquire dreck with potential.
    He probably remembers Storm Davis so I'd say it's the former.

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    Re: Dave Duncan

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    He probably remembers Storm Davis so I'd say it's the former.
    It's a long list.....Lamar Hoyt, Eckersly, Dave Stewart, Bob Welch, Mike Moore, Scott Sanderson et al.

    That said, a GM's ego can credit the StL success to his own Midas touch quite easily.

    In a perfect world, I'd like to imagine WJ worked very closely w/ TL and DD to understand the makeup of players that they could plug into their program, and see his role as GM as a minor one.

    If not, we're in for the acquisition of plenty of lemons over the winter.....only to find out the manager and the coaches do not possess the recipe for lemonade.
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