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    Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    The Reds DFA'd David Ross on August 11th. They have till the 21st, this Thursday to get him dealt. I think he would have to pass through waivers. His total salary was $2,525,000 this year, and most of that is already paid.

    Someone will certainly take him as a free agent. The real question is whether the Reds can get anything in return, if they can trade him to a team that claims him off waivers. His numbers are alright, but his OBP is high, especially for a catcher at .381.

    Tonight, on MLBTradeRumors, there was this:
    Phillies, Red Sox Interested In Dave Ross
    By Tim Dierkes [August 18 at 3:27pm CST]
    8:13pm: Rosenthal has added the Red Sox to the mix for Ross.
    3:27pm: According to Ken Rosenthal, the Phillies are interested in recently-released catcher Dave Ross. Rosenthal says they could send him to the minors and bring him up when rosters expand. The Marlins seemingly chose Paul Lo Duca over Ross earlier this year.
    The 31 year-old backstop hit .231/.381/.366 in 173 plate appearances this year. He flashed prodigious power in '06, but not much since then. Ross threw out 29% of attempted basestealers this year and 41% in '07.
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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Thursday...trade brewing?

    Actually, they designated Ross for assignment on August 10, which was the first day Ryan Hanigan joined the team. So they only have until Tuesday, August 19 to do something.

    A somewhat unrelated topic, but Marcus McBeth was designated for assignment on August 9 to make room for Adam Rosales on the 40-man roster. McBeth's 10-day period expired at midnight tonight (about 30 minutes ago). Has anyone heard what the club did? Did they release him? Did he accept outright assignment to the minors?
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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Thursday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    Actually, they designated Ross for assignment on August 10, which was the first day Ryan Hanigan joined the team. So they only have until Tuesday, August 19 to do something.

    A somewhat unrelated topic, but Marcus McBeth was designated for assignment on August 9 to make room for Adam Rosales on the 40-man roster. McBeth's 10-day period expired at midnight tonight (about 30 minutes ago). Has anyone heard what the club did? Did they release him? Did he accept outright assignment to the minors?
    I think Macbeth is now in the A's or Red Sox system now.
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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Thursday...trade brewing?

    Big Klu, you might be right about the date. I saw the ESPN note and date...
    Reds August 11: Activated pitcher Aaron Harang from the 15-day disabled list; optioned pitcher Homer Bailey to Louisville of the International League (AAA); designated catcher David Ross for assignment; recalled catcher Ryan Hanigan from Louisville.
    I edited the title to say by Wednesday....Maybe it would be clearer to say by Tuesday midnight?
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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    McBeth is now with the Red Sox.


    Rotoworld seemed to indicate Ross has already been released, but even if he hasn't been, I don't see us getting anything for him.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    McBeth is now with the Red Sox.


    Rotoworld seemed to indicate Ross has already been released, but even if he hasn't been, I don't see us getting anything for him.
    The Red Sox claimed McBeth on 8/13, and used their last open 40 man roster spot on him. I don't know if Walt and Theo are friendly or not, and I don't know if the Reds even particularly want McBeth back, but he hasn't appeared in a game for the Pawsox yet.
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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    McBeth is now with the Red Sox.


    Rotoworld seemed to indicate Ross has already been released, but even if he hasn't been, I don't see us getting anything for him.
    Makes that Denorfia trade look even better now, doesn't it?

    With Dunn gone and the CF uncertainty (or even OF uncertainty for that matter), it would definitely be a better situation to have Denorfia on the roster.

    I doubt we'll get anything for Ross, seeing as the Fish seemed to have the most interest and that didn't happen before the non-waiver deadline.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Makes that Denorfia trade look even better now, doesn't it?

    With Dunn gone and the CF uncertainty (or even OF uncertainty for that matter), it would definitely be a better situation to have Denorfia on the roster.

    I doubt we'll get anything for Ross, seeing as the Fish seemed to have the most interest and that didn't happen before the non-waiver deadline.
    Dude, Denorfia has a .713 OPS in a hitter friendly AAA league this year. He's awful. Why continue to make him out as a good player?

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Dude, Denorfia has a .713 OPS in a hitter friendly AAA league this year. He's awful. Why continue to make him out as a good player?
    Is he any worse than Corey Patterson?

    Was he any worse than Chris Dickerson?

    With McBeth no longer a Red, we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.

    I hope Walt doesn't make those same mistakes...

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    ...we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.
    And the team that acquired Denorfia got nada, zip, zilch, nothing. It's really a non-issue. Let it go.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Is he any worse than Corey Patterson?

    Was he any worse than Chris Dickerson?

    With McBeth no longer a Red, we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.

    I hope Walt doesn't make those same mistakes...
    Denorfia is barely OPSing above .700 so my guess is he'd be lucky to produce Patterson level stats at the major league level. And yes he's worse than Chris Dickerson.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Is he any worse than Corey Patterson?

    Was he any worse than Chris Dickerson?

    With McBeth no longer a Red, we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.

    I hope Walt doesn't make those same mistakes...
    Pre-injury Denorfia was better than those guys and would have been a fine cheap CF option this year. We didn't trade pre-injury Denorfia though. His results this year show that he's not the same guy he used to be. The trade ended up being chaff for chaff.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Is he any worse than Corey Patterson?

    Was he any worse than Chris Dickerson?

    With McBeth no longer a Red, we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.

    I hope Walt doesn't make those same mistakes...
    Ben Jukich came back as a PTBNL in that trade as well. He might yet help the Reds.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Is he any worse than Corey Patterson?

    Was he any worse than Chris Dickerson?

    With McBeth no longer a Red, we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.

    I hope Walt doesn't make those same mistakes...
    Cody Ross and Cantu who we gave away for nothing was much worse then these guys!
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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Dude, Denorfia has a .713 OPS in a hitter friendly AAA league this year. He's awful. Why continue to make him out as a good player?

    Because it's a RedsZone tradition. It's always been about Denorfia, Hatteberg, Freel, Boussard, and Cameron. Mediocre players at best.

    Yep, when the Reds need a 30HR 100 RBI man, we still lust after .260 hitting, 50 RBI guys that play good defense behind a mediocre to bad pitching staff.

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