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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Makes that Denorfia trade look even better now, doesn't it?

    With Dunn gone and the CF uncertainty (or even OF uncertainty for that matter), it would definitely be a better situation to have Denorfia on the roster.

    I doubt we'll get anything for Ross, seeing as the Fish seemed to have the most interest and that didn't happen before the non-waiver deadline.
    Dude, Denorfia has a .713 OPS in a hitter friendly AAA league this year. He's awful. Why continue to make him out as a good player?

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Dude, Denorfia has a .713 OPS in a hitter friendly AAA league this year. He's awful. Why continue to make him out as a good player?
    Is he any worse than Corey Patterson?

    Was he any worse than Chris Dickerson?

    With McBeth no longer a Red, we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.

    I hope Walt doesn't make those same mistakes...

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    ...we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.
    And the team that acquired Denorfia got nada, zip, zilch, nothing. It's really a non-issue. Let it go.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Is he any worse than Corey Patterson?

    Was he any worse than Chris Dickerson?

    With McBeth no longer a Red, we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.

    I hope Walt doesn't make those same mistakes...
    Denorfia is barely OPSing above .700 so my guess is he'd be lucky to produce Patterson level stats at the major league level. And yes he's worse than Chris Dickerson.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.
    Denorfia has done nothing.
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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    I'm not a great one to defend Wayne Krivsky but I do think we also got Ben Jukich in that trade and he may yet redeem it somewhat. Frankly if you want to look at Krivsky giveaways whom we could have used, I'd put Cody Ross, Jorge Cantu, and Brendan Harris way ahead of Denorfia.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Dude, Denorfia has a .713 OPS in a hitter friendly AAA league this year. He's awful. Why continue to make him out as a good player?

    Because it's a RedsZone tradition. It's always been about Denorfia, Hatteberg, Freel, Boussard, and Cameron. Mediocre players at best.

    Yep, when the Reds need a 30HR 100 RBI man, we still lust after .260 hitting, 50 RBI guys that play good defense behind a mediocre to bad pitching staff.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    I'm not a great one to defend Wayne Krivsky but I do think we also got Ben Jukich in that trade and he may yet redeem it somewhat. Frankly if you want to look at Krivsky giveaways whom we could have used, I'd put Cody Ross, Jorge Cantu, and Brendan Harris way ahead of Denorfia.
    But they don't play good defense and they don't pitch so they're fodder.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Is he any worse than Corey Patterson?

    Was he any worse than Chris Dickerson?

    With McBeth no longer a Red, we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.

    I hope Walt doesn't make those same mistakes...
    Pre-injury Denorfia was better than those guys and would have been a fine cheap CF option this year. We didn't trade pre-injury Denorfia though. His results this year show that he's not the same guy he used to be. The trade ended up being chaff for chaff.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Is he any worse than Corey Patterson?

    Was he any worse than Chris Dickerson?

    With McBeth no longer a Red, we gave Denorfia away for nada, zip, zilch, nothing.

    I hope Walt doesn't make those same mistakes...
    Ben Jukich came back as a PTBNL in that trade as well. He might yet help the Reds.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    The Denorfia trade was about the cash (over two million dollars). Not much is expected of the players to be named later, including Jukich (even though he might have the organization's best curveball). Jukich still has a chance to surprise people and produce for the Reds down the line, but I wouldn't count on him being anything more than a LOOGY.

    For the record, this year, the 28-year-old-should-be-in-his-prime Chris Denorfia is OPSing .639 for Oakland (50 at-bats) and .711 between A+ and AAA (155 at-bats). He has been a big disappointment for them so far.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Dewayne Wise would look better than Denorfia right now.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    The misfortune of injury derailed Chris Denorfia.

    I was one of Deno's biggist fans, before his injury he was the best defensive outfielder in our entire organization, He had a good OBP and speed.

    I had more faith in Chris Denorfia than I ever had in Drew Stubbs.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    Dewayne Wise would look better than Denorfia right now.
    I think you might be the only person who would go that far. Wise is having a surprisingly-good year, but I don't know that anyone expects it to last.

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    Re: Ross trade deadline is Wednesday...trade brewing?

    Denorfia had TJ surgery. It's in no way career-derailing for a hitter. Janish has had it, too.
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