According to mlbtraderumors.com
Why the Reds didn't trade him prior to July 31rst and why he cleared waivers are both a bit of a mystery to me.
According to mlbtraderumors.com
Why the Reds didn't trade him prior to July 31rst and why he cleared waivers are both a bit of a mystery to me.
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Seems to me like the latter explains the former. Now you're down to one mystery.Originally Posted by Will M
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Because he isn't that valuable of a commodity.
Smoke and mirrors pitchers usually aren't. Does he get buy on guile and guts or is it mostly luck at this point? I think the rest of baseball has spoken.
Shocked the Mets didn't put a claim in on him, Weathers could provide some bullpen relief until Wagner gets back.
If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.
Is it really that unusual for a player not to be traded by the deadline and still clear waivers? I think this is essentially a run of the mill situation, much ado about nothing. He could still be moved since he's cleared waivers.
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Weathers had a rough April and May. Since June 1rst he has been very good.
ERA ~2.5 and WHIP ~1.3 despite pitching in front of the Reds 'defense'.
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yep. and he should be. the rebuilding Reds of 2009 don't need a 39 year old reliever yet a team in the thick of a pennant race in 2008 could.
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Well, now they can trade him to anyone if they want.
Maybe they don't want to though.
A trade of Weathers for a PTBNL and a promotion of Roenicke or Herrera is almost too obvious.
I hadn't looked in a while, but Danny Ra is really dominating. 50.1 IP, 1.79 ERA, 47 K, 9 BB, 38 H, 2 HR. I know he's probably just a short (pardon the pun), middle relief guy, but he clearly doesn't need any more seasoning.
Ramon A. Ramirez has also done pretty well for himself. I'm not real familiar with him -- it looks like we signed him as a 6 year minor league FA. But he's been quite solid. I'd definitely like to see some of these guys in Cincy come September.
Last edited by RedsManRick; 08-20-2008 at 11:59 AM.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
as well as NEEDED! I would go to the park to watch Roenicke pitch.
Cedric 3/24/08It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
Why trade him for nothing, when he's worth comp picks in next years draft.
I agree. But they will say they need him around for leadership purposes.
Assuming you're willing to risk arbitration. Odds are he'd take it. I'd rather flip him for a prospect and let somebody else offer him arb. If they're willing to offer him arb and get the comp pick if he walks, we should be able to get a halfway decent prospect out it.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
Pretty risky offering arbitration to guy who likely won't get a multi-year contract from anyone, and would get quite a bit more in arbitration than he will on the open market.
I wish everyone would remember that you have to offer arbitration to be eligible for draft picks. And how that can effect the decision.
I don't think there's the slightest chance we'd offer arbitration to Weathers. Therefore he walks, we get no comp. His clearing waivers means exactly what it seems: no contender thought he was an upgrade for their bullpen.
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