My last ever Adam Dunn Thread - from the ORG "Dunn Appreciation Thread"

[BLEEDS]

Originally posted by SteelSD:
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71000 (entire thread, great read if you like to see what sensible people think of AD)

Adam Dunn is the most under-appreciated Red ever. It honestly sickens me that the Reds were not able to cull more advertisting revenue from forwarding the concept that he was a player people should come out to watch. Especially for his age, his production as a Red has been historic, a concept lost on the awful announcers the Reds continue to employ, the inept radio stations the Reds continue to support, and an intense throng of nonsensical fans who have little idea how baseball actually works.

Adam Dunn has been a tough guy to take out. He's worked through many injuries over the course of his career and he's done so without excuse. He's smart. He's personable and funny. Those attributes would have earned him a better nickname than "Big Donkey" in the long-ago-time and his grit, determination, and consistency should have earned him better treatment from both the media and fans than we have seen. Had the Reds put a better team around him, who knows what folks might be calling him today. "Mr. October" didn't get there by himself. Not "clutch"? Nah. If that's the excuse, then we're not paying attention.

Instead, we saw a truly marketable player lambasted time after time for having the audacity to not be able to pitch a lick and not be able to coach a lick and not be able to make numerous front offices draft a lick or trade a lick or find anything resembling a cohesive team. In the end, Dunn's time ran out. He was here for every single moment of every single "win-now" scenario, but was always handcuffed by an owner and/or GM who really didn't know how.

Farewell, Adam Dunn. You're not an "enigma". You're just an incredibly productive player folks didn't appreciate because you're not someone who folks wanted you to be. You weren't appreciated not because you weren't productive. You weren't appreciated because you weren't nostalgic. You didn't allow folks to harken back to times where they recognized your game. And that's far more a commentary on Cincinnati Reds fans than it is you.

You have talent, you have drive, you have heart, you have the grit, and you have the soul. Now it's time for you to put it together for a team, and hopefully, a fan base that understands exactly how valuable you are.

[bounty37h]

so, all I wanna know after reading that, can Bleeds be banned now if he does have another AD thread? He promised

[Ghosts of 1990]

There was no bigger Adam Dunn fan in the world then me. Its well documented on my blog.

HOWEVER:

1) Dunn was not coming back. He wants money more than the $15-17 million per year I believe he was worth. He wants to break the $100 million by far. I aparently had the wool pulled over my eyes to adam dunn. I thought he was down-home, country boy, laid back... didn't care about the money and was probably as good of a candidate as anyone NOT to try and break us with a contract and maybe take a discount/fair deal. I was wrong.

2) I talked to my source in the organization. They told me that EVERYONE was glad to see Dunn go minus a few players. Said that his lack of passion for the game (and I thought this wasn't the case) has really shown recently in his work ethic and to a smaller degree his play.

[BLEEDS]

There was no bigger Adam Dunn fan in the world then me. Its well documented on my blog.

HOWEVER:

1) Dunn was not coming back. He wants money more than the $15-17 million per year I believe he was worth. He wants to break the $100 million by far. I aparently had the wool pulled over my eyes to adam dunn. I thought he was down-home, country boy, laid back... didn't care about the money and was probably as good of a candidate as anyone NOT to try and break us with a contract and maybe take a discount/fair deal. I was wrong.

2) I talked to my source in the organization. They told me that EVERYONE was glad to see Dunn go minus a few players. Said that his lack of passion for the game (and I thought this wasn't the case) has really shown recently in his work ethic and to a smaller degree his play.

Is your #1 based upon facts, or heresay?

I could buy #2, even though that would not be like AD, but if by "recent" you mean after they traded Griff, I don't doubt that all of the Reds are guilty of that to some degree.

I'm not saying the guy's an Angel, but I think he worked hard and was his biggest critic by far and truly CARED about the game, and his performance. Being stuck on a horrible team, with a horrible manager, and a historically bad run of owners and GM's will jade a guy after awhile. Look at Barry Sanders for an example. Went out WAY too early.

FWIW, I think Dunn is well liked by many many players, and he took Bruce under his wing, etc... I can only guess at a few of the names of the "team" players that were glad to see Dunn go.

PEACE

-BLEEDS

[Nasty_Boy]

#1 has been disputed by AD... even as much to say it was a lie.

#2 was probably Brandon Phillips who now wants to be face of the franchise. He realized that he couldn't be a "leader" without the big fella off the team.

[redsfanmia]

FWIW, I think Dunn is well liked by many many players, and he took Bruce under his wing, etc...

PEACE

-BLEEDS

Lets hope Bruce did not learn too much from Dunner.

[Nasty_Boy]

I would hate for Jay to learn how to command the strikezone. Jay already strikes out at a pace that would make Dunn look like Joe D.

[Javy Pornstache]

Lets hope Bruce did not learn too much from Dunner.

He obviously hasn't learned pitch selection and not to swing at pitches over his eyes from the Dunner. Yet.

[ChatterRed]

I hope our young outfielders weren't learning any fielding techniques from the Dunner.

[ChatterRed]

So let's see. This team sucks without Dunn and Griffey...........but they weren't a playoff team with them.

Glad we moved on.

[Lockdwn11]

Lets hope Bruce did not learn too much from Dunner.

I thought the same thing.

[tommycash]

NaNaNa NaNaNa Hey Hey Hey Goodbye.

I am just kidding Bleeds.

I will miss Adam Dunn, I still remember going to Louisville to watch him play in his short time there thinking this guy will retire with a lot of HRs.

[redsfanmia]

Dunn was a good player just not a franchise type player and I am not upset that he is gone. I wish him good luck in Arizona and really wish him good luck in getting that 120 million dollar contract he wants.

[ChatterRed]

Seriously, I like Adam. I just don't think he is such a difference maker that this team has to have him. I think this team is in turnover mode to the next generation, and they can't afford him. I also think they need better defense in the OF. This team was/is one dimensional and needs to diversify.

[Nasty_Boy]

Dunn hit a 3 run HR off of Peavy in the 1st inning tonight. Just another HR with guys on base to get his team back in the game.