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    If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    ....I think that would give us a chance at an 88 game pace, which should give us a chance come mid-July to make the playoffs.

    Our new Outfield, less Junior and Dunn, and if we add Gonzalez, our team ERA should be 1 run lower.

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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    our team ERA should be 1 run lower.

    This would make the Reds the best pitching staff in the league. No amount of improved outfield defense is going to do that.

    The Reds this year are 14th in runs allowed and 12 in runs scored in the NL. And, get this, they have the 12th best record in the league.

    If Harang comes back strong next year, the Reds may be about to get to middle of the pack in NL era, but, that's a big if right now. Lowe would certainly help, but, do you really want to spend 11-12 million a year on a 35 year old starting pitcher?

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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    The pitcher I really want the resd to go after, who probably will be cheaper than some others is Oliver Perez. Could be a solid 3-4 lefty for us for a couple of years.

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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    Absolutely not. Not only will he command a high salary, but his good numbers have come in a very pitcher friendly park. He's also 35 and probably about ready to hit his decline phase.

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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    A park being "pitcher friendly" would not matter as much for Lowe as his ground ball to fly ball rates are astronomical.

    A career Gb/Fb rate of 3.29 is absolutely the kind of pitcher that would fit in at Great American.
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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    Quote Originally Posted by schmidty622 View Post
    A park being "pitcher friendly" would not matter as much for Lowe as his ground ball to fly ball rates are astronomical.

    A career Gb/Fb rate of 3.29 is absolutely the kind of pitcher that would fit in at Great American.
    That's not the way it works, it gives up less runs overall.

    And don't address the salary, age and decline nature of the age and the supposed youth movement going on for that matter.

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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    The thought of paying Derek Lowe a lot of money makes me ill.
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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    From what I've heard from insiders, the freed up payroll is going directly to sign more pitching, and possibly an impact bat for the offense.

    Promises, promises.
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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChatterRed View Post
    From what I've heard from insiders, the freed up payroll is going directly to sign more pitching, and possibly an impact bat for the offense.
    Links?

    Of course that's what we NEED - we needed that this past off-season too. We got Josh Fogg and Corey Patterson.

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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    Volquez
    Harang
    Cueto
    Arroyo
    Owings

    How about that. That looks like a good rotation to me, as long as Harang can get it back. I see no need to spend 10 million on another pitcher when your #5 starter will probably be Micah Owings. I say we get a impact bat for LF. How about Manny Ramirez? Trade for Holliday? We also need a leadoff man. How about a trade for Pierre assuming the Dodgers pay most of his remaining salary.

    Pierre CF
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    Ramirez/Holliday LF
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    Encarnacion 3b
    Castillo/Hannigan C
    Gonzalez SS

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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    No way Ramirez ever comes to the Reds. I'd be all for it, but it's just not happening. He's going to be making 25 mil per year. The Reds aren't going to spend that on one player.

    Holliday is nice but I suspect is numbers are inflated by Coors Field. He'd still probably be a nice fit on the team but another team will outbid the Reds.

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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    We still wouldn't score enough. Offense is a must especially in GABP! The Reds could make do without HRs if they brought in some high OBP guys. Hopefully the BP/Dusty philosiphy doesn't infect the team again next season.

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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    you all seem to forget we have to overpay for an athlete.. especially after this year.. the extra money is the only way a FA will come to this abysmal team..

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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    Pierre is not a good leadoff hitter...hes just fast

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    Re: If we added Lowe, could we compete for a playoff spot next season?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orodle View Post
    Pierre is not a good leadoff hitter...hes just fast
    Well you know, according to Dusty and Dustypoo, they are one in the same...

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