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    Re: Reds vs Astros 8/26/08

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Which speaks volumes about the Reds' "improved" pitching. The team is nowhere where they need to be compared to the rest of the league. Combine that with an anemic offense, and Walt's got a lot of work to do over the winter. I don't envy him at all.
    No, I disagree again. Aaron Harang has stuggled, there's no secret about that. But both he and Bronson had gone 8 innings twice before this season. Our other 3 starters are young kids for most of the season. With all the concern about pitchcounts...I certainly wouldn't expect (or want) Dusty to let them go for a complete game this season. So when you're talking about only having 2 of your 5 starters even really eligible for a CG....it's not THAT surprising that it took this long. How many other teams out there have 2-3 rookie starters?

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    Re: Reds vs Astros 8/26/08

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Which speaks volumes about the Reds' "improved" pitching.
    Not really. It doesn't prove anything IMO. Aaron Harang is usually good for 1+ complete games a year but has been injured most of the year, and Cueto and Volquez are both young kids still learning to be pitch efficient in order to go deeper in games.

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    Re: Reds vs Astros 8/26/08

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Arroyo has thrown 96 pitches in seven. No way he finishes this off.
    I was happy to be wrong. Arroyo finished the final two innings on a total of 13 pitches. Nice.

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    Re: Reds vs Astros 8/26/08

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Not really. It doesn't prove anything IMO. Aaron Harang is usually good for 1+ complete games a year but has been injured most of the year, and Cueto and Volquez are both young kids still learning to be pitch efficient in order to go deeper in games.
    Complete games are hard enough to come by these days when a pitcher only has to get 27 outs to accomplish the feat. Getting the 30 to 35 outs that the Reds defense requires turns a lot of potential complete game performances into 6 and 7 inning outings.
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    Re: Reds vs Astros 8/26/08

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Complete games are hard enough to come by these days when a pitcher only has to get 27 outs to accomplish the feat. Getting the 30 to 35 outs that the Reds defense requires turns a lot of potential complete game performances into 6 and 7 inning outings.
    An excellent point.
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