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    A simple Question...

    Would you, as a Reds fan, be satisfied with an offense that usually gets less than 7 hits and scores less than 4 runs even with excellent pitching?

    I find it extremely boring baseball. I do not think I'm alone, even though Bronson Arroyo pitched a masterful game.
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    Re: A simple Question...

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Would you, as a Reds fan, be satisfied with an offense that usually gets less than 7 hits and scores less than 4 runs even with excellent pitching?

    I find it extremely boring baseball. I do not think I'm alone, even though Bronson Arroyo pitched a masterful game.
    Presuming the Reds win (which tonight they did), there's not a game I'd rather watch, actually.

    As is evidenced by the fact that this is the first game that I've watched much of in almost two months, in the midst of a national party convention to boot.

    That's just different tastes, though. There's no right or wrong; baseball has different faces.
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    Re: A simple Question...

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    Presuming the Reds win (which tonight they did), there's not a game I'd rather watch, actually.

    As is evidenced by the fact that this is the first game that I've watched much of in almost two months, in the midst of a national party convention to boot.

    That's just different tastes, though. There's no right or wrong; baseball has different faces.
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    Re: A simple Question...

    I love pitchers duels and slug-fests equally. I don't love it when half of each occurs in the same game.
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    Re: A simple Question...

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Would you, as a Reds fan, be satisfied with an offense that usually gets less than 7 hits and scores less than 4 runs even with excellent pitching?

    I find it extremely boring baseball. I do not think I'm alone, even though Bronson Arroyo pitched a masterful game.
    The rank of entertainment looks like this:

    Higher Scoring, Reds Win
    Lower Scoring, Reds Win












    Lower Scoring, Reds Lose
    Higher Scoring, Reds Lose


    Bottom line, if they score more runs than the give up I'll be entertained.
    Last edited by RedsManRick; 08-27-2008 at 12:45 AM.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: A simple Question...

    I really don't care how they get there but I want them to win lots of games and banners.
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    Re: A simple Question...

    More pitching, more defense, more wins, works for me. Especially after watching 2001 through 2008.

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    Re: A simple Question...

    Reds have the less offense part down pat, now they just need the more pitching and defense.
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    Re: A simple Question...

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    Reds have the less offense part down pat, now they just need the more pitching and defense.
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    Re: A simple Question...

    I share the sentiment that as long as they would be winning I'd be happy. At least I think I would be. The situation hasn't presented itself in so long I'm left to assume I would be.

    I actually tend to enjoy the pitchers duel games quite a bit though. Faster paced and the the buildup to runs actually being scored feels more meaningful.

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    Re: A simple Question...

    The only type of game I despise watching is a game that is played very sloppy with lotsa errors, base running mistakes, bad managerial decisions etc.

    I guess that explains why I haven't watched the 08 version of the Redlegs much lately.
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    Re: A simple Question...

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    The only type of game I despise watching is a game that is played very sloppy with lotsa errors, base running mistakes, bad managerial decisions etc.

    I guess that explains why I haven't watched the 08 version of the Redlegs much lately.
    I've watched or followed every game (almost) this year. I've seen this team go from one who could score runs in bunches to an incompetent offensive team with no defense and mediocre pitching. It is really boring to me, but...

    My point (missed by most) is if this team continues to average less than 4 runs and 9 hits per game, how good will the pitching have to be to win? With most any squad allowing +/- 4 runs per game, you have to average 5 runs to win. You'll wins some, but you'll lose more. I want to see action and that doesn't include a pitcher than allows 2 runs over 6 innings. I miss the offense of 2005.
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    Re: A simple Question...

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    I really don't care how they get there but I want them to win lots of games and banners.
    This word banner... I'm not familiar with this. Could you elaborate?

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    Re: A simple Question...

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    I miss the offense of 2005.
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    Re: A simple Question...

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring~Fields View Post
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    2005 60 68 .469 20.5 games behind  666 runs scored
    2008 58 74 .439 24   games behind  556 runs scored
    Regardless. The great pitching strides of 2008 (YMMV) haven't resulted in any more wins due to emasculated offense.

    Same old same old.
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