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    Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    San Francisco
    D. Roberts lf .246
    R. Winn rf .308
    P. Sandoval 3b .372
    B. Molina c .284
    A. Rowand cf .280
    T. Ishikawa 1b .206
    E. Burriss ss .270
    E. Velez 2b .219
    B. Zito p .108

    Cincinnati
    C. Dickerson cf .304
    J. Keppinger ss .268
    B. Phillips 2b .263
    J. Votto 1b .285
    Encarnacion 3b .249
    J. Bruce rf .252
    J. Cabrera lf .276
    P. Bako c .206
    E. Volquez p .083

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    grand slam for ee

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    Chat is open

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    Chat is open

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    yeah, computer giving me some issues today...that or it's the alcohol kicking in

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    Reds defense making Volquez look bad yet again. Worst defense in MLB.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Reds defense making Volquez look bad yet again. Worst defense in MLB.
    What happened? I just got in and missed it.

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    What happened? I just got in and missed it.
    Who won the game?

    Volquez had trouble keeping SF off base (allowed 8 hits in 6 innings), but some shoddy defense by Phillips and Bruce led to 4 runs in the 4th after we had gone out in front by 4-0 on Edwin's grand slam. All of the 6 runs allowed by Edisonson were earned since no errors were given by the official scorer.

    Both teams' defense has been less than desirable, though.
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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Who won the game?
    Riverside got crushed. That's the last time I'll watch them play this year.

    Official scorers suck. This is two straight starts Volquez has been screwed by the official scorer. You would think clueless official scorer would favor Volquez in this case.

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    Code:
    Final          1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R  H  E  
    San Francisco  0 0 0 4 0 3 0 0 0 7  13 2 
    Cincinnati     0 0 4 4 2 0 1 0 X 11 12 0
    Code:
                         AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg  
    C. Dickerson cf-lf   5  3 3  4  0  1  1   .328  
    J. Keppinger ss      5  1 1  0  0  0  3   .267  
    B. Phillips 2b       3  0 1  0  2  0  1   .263  
    J. Votto 1b          3  1 2  1  1  0  1   .288  
    E. Encarnacion 3b    4  1 2  5  1  1  2   .251  
    J. Bruce rf          5  0 1  0  0  1  4   .252  
    J. Cabrera lf        3  3 2  0  0  0  0   .295  
    D. Weathers p        0  0 0  0  0  0  0   .000  
    J. Valentin ph       0  0 0  0  1  0  0   .252  
    F. Cordero p         0  0 0  0  0  0  0   .000  
    P. Bako c            4  1 0  0  0  3  6   .203  
    E. Volquez p         2  1 0  0  0  2  2   .080  
    J. Affeldt p         0  0 0  0  0  0  0   .000  
    C. Patterson ph-cf   1  0 0  0  0  0  0   .196
    Totals              35 11 12 10 5  8 20
    Scoring Summary
    Bot 3rd: Cincinnati
    - E. Encarnacion homered to deep left, J. Keppinger, J. Votto and C. Dickerson scored

    Top 4th: San Francisco
    - T. Ishikawa singled to shallow right, P. Sandoval scored, A. Rowand to third
    - E. Burriss singled to second, A. Rowand scored, T. Ishikawa to second
    - E. Velez tripled to deep right, T. Ishikawa and E. Burriss scored

    Bot 4th: Cincinnati
    - C. Dickerson doubled to deep left, P. Bako and J. Cabrera scored, E. Volquez to third
    - J. Votto hit by pitch, E. Volquez scored, C. Dickerson to third, B. Phillips to second
    - E. Encarnacion walked, C. Dickerson scored, B. Phillips to third, J. Votto to second

    Bot 5th: Cincinnati
    - C. Dickerson homered to deep right, J. Cabrera scored

    Top 6th: San Francisco
    - E. Velez doubled to deep left, E. Burriss scored
    - R. Aurilia homered to deep center, E. Velez scored

    Bot 7th: Cincinnati
    - P. Bako safe at first on pitcher O. Matos' throwing error, J. Cabrera to third, J. Cabrera scored

    Batting Cincinnati
    2B - B Phillips (23, B Zito); J Cabrera 2 (6, B Zito, O Matos); C Dickerson (7, B Zito).

    HR - E Encarnacion (23, 3rd inning off B Zito 3 on, 2 Out), C Dickerson (4, 5th inning off B Sadler 1 on, 2 Out).

    S - P Bako , E Volquez.

    RBI - E Encarnacion 5 (54), C Dickerson 4 (10), J Votto (60).

    2-out RBI - E Encarnacion 4, C Dickerson 2.

    Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - P Bako 3, J Keppinger 1, J Votto 1.

    GIDP - J Bruce.

    Team LOB - 9.

    Base Running
    SB - C Dickerson (4, 3rd base off B Zito/B Molina).

    CS - B Phillips (9, 2nd base by O Matos/B Molina).

    Fielding
    DP - 2 (B Phillips-J Keppinger-J Votto, J Keppinger-B Phillips-J Votto).


    Batting San Francisco
    2B - E Velez (10, E Volquez).

    3B - E Velez (5, E Volquez).

    HR - R Aurilia (9, 6th inning off J Affeldt 1 on, 2 Out).

    RBI - T Ishikawa (7), E Burriss (14), E Velez 3 (16), R Aurilia 2 (43).

    2-out RBI - R Aurilia 2.

    Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - D Roberts 1, F Lewis 1.

    GIDP - R Winn, E Velez.

    Team LOB - 5.

    Fielding
    E - B Zito (1, throw); O Matos (1, throw).

    DP - 1 (E Burriss-E Velez-T Ishikawa).

    Pitching
    Code:
    B. Zito    3.1 7 8 7 2 2 1 5.62  (L, 8-16)
    B. Sadler  1.2 1 2 2 1 2 1 4.66  
    O. Matos   1.0 2 1 0 1 1 0 3.77  
    A. Hinshaw 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3.86  
    T. Walker  1.0 2 0 0 1 2 0 4.53  
     
      
    E. Volquez  5.1 8 6 6 3 6 0 3.04  (W, 16-5)
    J. Affeldt  1.2 1 1 1 0 2 1 3.39  
    D. Weathers 1.0 2 0 0 0 0 0 3.34  
    F. Cordero  1.0 2 0 0 0 0 0 3.70
    IBB - B Phillips (by B Zito).

    HBP - J Votto (by B Zito); J Cabrera (by B Sadler).

    Pitches-strikes - B Zito 80-51; B Sadler 30-18; O Matos 22-13; A Hinshaw 7-5; T Walker 22-14; E Volquez 110-73; J Affeldt 21-14; D Weathers 14-10; F Cordero 15-11.

    Ground balls-fly balls - B Zito 4-6; B Sadler 2-1; O Matos 1-1; A Hinshaw 1-1; T Walker 1-0; E Volquez 4-6; J Affeldt 2-1; D Weathers 2-1; F Cordero 2-1.

    Batters faced - B Zito 22; B Sadler 7; O Matos 6; A Hinshaw 3; T Walker 6; E Volquez 26; J Affeldt 6; D Weathers 4; F Cordero 4.

    Time: 3:20.
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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    More poor defense costs Volquez. Geez
    "panic" only comes from having real expectations

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    Quote Originally Posted by GAC View Post
    More poor defense costs Volquez. Geez
    No errors so Volquez gets the earned runs while the fielders don't get any errors.

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    4-4 tie game

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    The entire "official scorer" business is just plain annoying. It's almost entirely political, meant to protect certain guys' stats rather than reflect the reality of what happened on a given play.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    wow, giants playing reds type of defense on that rundown:

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    Re: Reds vs Giants 8/29/08

    Poor base running and the Reds escape.

    Where was Zito at to cover 3B?
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