The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.
Stubbs won't get called up. He is in the AAA playoffs and playing in the AFL.
TRF just can't let it go.
For a guy who 'just had a hot April and sucked the rest of the of year', Stubbs has certainly put together a nice final tally. Elite defense, a 370+ OBP, and 30+ SB are some pretty nice qualities to see out of your future centerfielder. He even showed a little bit of pop late in the year.
This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.
Longest Stubbs thread in Redszone history without someone using the L word.
Honestly I have gotten what TRF has said all along. I don't agree 100% with him but he does have a good point in that he hasn't really stayed at any higher level long enough for the opposition to exploit his weaknesses.
So again we must tune in later to find out the results. If he doesn't get dealt this off-season which I can honestly see happening. Walt lifted him to AA and then to AAA quickly and now he is going to the AFL for some "grooming" (uhum exposure). If he does well in the AFL I expect him to be some fine bait for good 'ole Mr. Jocketty. If he doesn't do well there I expect to see him back at Louisville for the next chapter in this continuing saga.
I'll eat my gym socks if Drew Stubbs hits 48 homers next year. He ain't no Ryan howard.
How, then, are those people of the future—who are taking steroids every day—going to look back on baseball players who used steroids? They're going to look back on them as pioneers. They're going to look back at it and say "So what?" - Bill James, Cooperstown and the 'Roids
Ryan Howard in CF would be an amusing sight.
Not since Low A have we seen how Stubbs adjusts after pitchers have adjusted to him. Hot on Buce's heels? No. Overpromoted without offensive merit? Yes. Defensively he might indeed be great, yet I doubt any poster has seen him defensively more than a dozen times.
And yet I read over and over that some posters (not doug) actually want to see the Reds call him up now that L'ville's season is over. Ridiculous. right now he'd be lucky to hit as well as Patterson, and would NOT be a defensive upgrade. I see four Scenarios for Stubbs (the same four for any prospect i guess)
Barring any outside move my fear is #1 happens. And frankly there is too much uncertainty with that scenario. I prefer #2 or #4. Stubbs has value as long as he's perceived to have value. And there is nothing wrong with that. I worry that the Reds see him as a cornerstone to their future. I see him as Gary Matthews Jr. with more range and less pop.
- He has a hot spring, forces the Reds' hand and wins the CF job. From there he either shines or tanks offensively.
- He spends half or all of next year in AAA, dominates and plays for the Reds/some other team late in the year.
- Has a good/bad AFL and is dealt with accordingly. (bad, pushed back to AA? good, starts at AAA)
- He's traded this offseason in a big package for need (LF, SP)
I don't really like Gary Matthews Jr.
Suck it up cupcake.
Drew Stubbs would both hit and field better than Corey Patterson right now. He actually swings a bat with purpose, knows when to lay off pitches for the most part and he is a better fielder than Patterson is (those who disagree, I think you have yet to watch Drew Stubbs in person because you don't know what you are missing).
If you want to someone that's really fun to watch, you need to see Chris Heisey
in person. He gets to everything. He making diving catches every where. He makes
catches while slamming into the wall. He was the most exciting OF that I
saw this year in Sarasota or Chattanooga.