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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Quote Originally Posted by Redman15 View Post
    If you want to someone that's really fun to watch, you need to see Chris Heisey
    in person. He gets to everything. He making diving catches every where. He makes
    catches while slamming into the wall. He was the most exciting OF that I
    saw this year in Sarasota or Chattanooga.
    It sounds like you see Heisey as a better defender than Stubbs. Interesting.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    It sounds like you see Heisey as a better defender than Stubbs. Interesting.
    Depends when he saw Heisey and if he saw Stubbs. Still, with your eyes, especially only seeing a guy 3-4 times, its very difficult to separate exciting from good. How many times have we seen guys dive on plays that others would have made simply running in? One looked a lot better, but had that ball landed 2 feet the other way one guy would have still caught it, while the guy who was 'exciting' wouldn't have. Heisey has good defense, so don't take that the wrong way, but he isn't on the same level as Stubbs (not that many are).

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Thanks Doug. I was always under the impression Drew was the best outfielder in the organization, defensively. I've read good things about Heisey but most reports put Stubbs at the top.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    I said more exciting. I did not see Stubbs dive for one ball this year. He just
    gets to them. I saw Heisey make some pretty amazing catches. He plays the
    OF like Ryan Freel. He is really fun to watch.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Quote Originally Posted by Redman15 View Post
    I said more exciting. I did not see Stubbs dive for one ball this year. He just
    gets to them. I saw Heisey make some pretty amazing catches. He plays the
    OF like Ryan Freel. He is really fun to watch.
    Gotcha. My mistake.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    I probably saw Stubbs 15 times this year in person. Heisey about 10.
    I saw them both last year in Dayton around 15 times and for me, Heisey
    was more fun to watch. He plays every game like it's his last.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Quote Originally Posted by Redman15 View Post
    I probably saw Stubbs 15 times this year in person. Heisey about 10.
    I saw them both last year in Dayton around 15 times and for me, Heisey
    was more fun to watch. He plays every game like it's his last.
    Heisey is a real fun guy to watch. He is balls to the wall at times. He has some talent to go with that mindset though. He comes off to me as a better hitting Freel with a little less speed (but still fast).

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Quote Originally Posted by Redman15 View Post
    He plays every game like it's his last.
    could be.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Quote Originally Posted by Redman15 View Post
    I said more exciting. I did not see Stubbs dive for one ball this year. He just
    gets to them. I saw Heisey make some pretty amazing catches. He plays the
    OF like Ryan Freel. He is really fun to watch.
    Just ignore BRM. He's been going through hard times lately since the state of Colorado wouldn't let him change his name to Dusty Baker Jr.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Just ignore BRM. He's been going through hard times lately since the state of Colorado wouldn't let him change his name to Dusty Baker Jr.
    No, but they did let me change it to Captain Sweatband.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Captain Toothpick sounds better.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Captain Toothpick sounds better.
    That one was already taken by RMR.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    There is not much difference between Stubbs and Heisey offensively. The biggest difference
    is that Heisey puts the ball in play more than Stubbs. Stubbs strike out rate is about 2-1 to Heisey's.
    I can see them playing side by side again like in Dayton.That was a pretty good OF.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Quote Originally Posted by Redman15 View Post
    There is not much difference between Stubbs and Heisey offensively. The biggest difference
    is that Heisey puts the ball in play more than Stubbs. Stubbs strike out rate is about 2-1 to Heisey's.
    I can see them playing side by side again like in Dayton.That was a pretty good OF.
    The biggest difference between the two offensively is Stubbs power potential. Heisey just simply doesn't have it.

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    Re: Bats' Stubbs hot on Jay Bruce's heels

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    The biggest difference between the two offensively is Stubbs power potential. Heisey just simply doesn't have it.
    I would agree if you are going by potential. Otherwise the real numbers say different.

    Code:
     Stubbs 2008 Season
    Team	League	AVG	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	TB	BB	SO	SB	CS	OBP	SLG	OPS
    SAR	FSL	.261	86	303	49	79	21	4	5	38	123	50	82	27	8	.366	.406	.772
    CHA	SOU	.315	26	92	12	29	8	0	0	9	37	11	21	3	1	.400	.402	.802
    LOU	INT	.293	19	75	14	22	4	2	2	10	36	6	20	3	0	.354	.480	.834
    Minors		.277	131	470	75	130	33	6	7	57	196	67	123	33	9	.371	.417	.788
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     Heisey's 2008 Season
    Team	League	AVG	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	TB	BB	SO	SB	CS	OBP	SLG	OPS
    SAR	FSL	.287	117	436	77	125	31	7	7	51	191	57	69	27	2	.381	.438	.819
    CHA	SOU	.316	19	79	11	25	6	1	2	10	39	3	15	5	0	.341	.494	.835
    Minors		.291	136	515	88	150	37	8	9	61	230	60	84	32	2	.375	.447	.822


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