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  • Yes, it was an error and CC should be awarded the no-hitter

    9 27.27%
  • No, it was correctly scored a hit

    10 30.30%
  • It was an error, but CC should not be awarded a no-hitter since ruling it a hit changed the dynamics of the remainder of the game

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Thread: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

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    What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    Ned Yost seems pretty fired up by this. I'd rule it as a hit on an ordinary play...but an unwritten rule is that the first hit of a game needs to be a solid hit in case of this sort of thing happening.

    I know I shouldn't think like this, but being that it is CC, and being it was in the 5th inning of a no-no...I'd have ruled the play an error.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280831123

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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    If he fields it cleanly he's out at first base IMO, so I'd rule it an error.

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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    I believe it would be called a hit 90% of the time.......probably no one would have said a word if it were not the only one. A bummer for CC but I would have said hit too.
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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    Hit. CC threw a heck of a one hitter.

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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    It's pretty clearly an error in my book. But bottom line, if CC wanted the no-no, he should have made the play.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    Error, but since he made the error count it as a hit.
    Go Gators!

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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    Error. Whether there was a no-hitter or not, that's an error.
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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    If you watch the replay of the play, Sabathia grabbed for the ball and was in throwing position while LaRoche was still 30+ feet from first base. LaRoche would have been out by five feet if Sabathia had fielded it cleanly. It's clearly an error in my opinion. Official scoring around major league baseball has become a joke. Just look at recent Reds games for an example. Brandon Phillips botched a groundball on Friday night yet it was ruled a hit in order to keep Phillips error total down. Last weekend Aaron Cook was credited with a bunt single when he would have been out by 20 feet if Bako had made a decent throw. I wish MLB would do something about it.

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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    Error. I said it before I knew the circumstances. I stand by it.

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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    Sign him, Bob.

    Do it.

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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    That's a clear Error.
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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    They won't change it.
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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    Agreed, Chip, but I just looked at it again. It's an error, but it was Pittsburgh where the embarrassment of a no-no is too much for them to bear after a 10-game losing streak. Simply shameful. Regardless, a wonderful game for CC. Human error and it's something I hope is never taken out of baseball.
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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    From the ESPN article this sentence is key...

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280831123

    Despite the Brewers' protests, the play in question is routinely called a hit and fielders often get angry when they are called for errors on easier plays.

    That is a true statement. The premise behind it may be incorrect, but to watch that play...that same play is many,many times called a hit. If the play happened in the Reds-Giants game today there would not be a second thought about it had it been ruled either way. However, in a no-no situtation or even in the first inning where this play would be the first hit of a game, the official scorer must use discretion, and on a borderline play like this...call it an error.

    And that said...human error is part of baseball, love it or hate it. I don't want to open the proverbial can of worms and have MLB overrule the scorer on this one.

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    Re: What do you think of CC's "no-hitter"

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    Sign him, Bob.

    Do it.
    Yes, let's sign the overweight pitcher currently throwing 500 pitches a game, which he will probably be doing well into October.

    Oh, wait, Bob - do NOT do this.


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