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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    More McLouth love. The kid is a nice player, but come on.
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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring~Fields View Post
    Yes......I said the same thing here at home.
    It totally changed the entire at-bat. As a hitter, there's a HUGE difference between waiting for a 3-1 pitch with two outs and the bases loaded after having watched the pitcher walk the previous batter to force in a run, and waiting for a 2-2 pitch after seeing a pitch six inches off the plate get called for a strike. Andy Phillips figured he had to swing at anything, because he had just seen a terrible pitch get called for a strike.
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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    That Cordero fellow is good.....lol.
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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    The lineup that Dusty ran out there tonight has 4 automatic outs, plus Brandon Phillips.
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    Season against right handed pitching
    B. Phillips	.250 .294 .392 .686
    Encarnacion 	.228 .305 .452 .757 
    J. Keppinger 	.224 .263 .281 .545
    Paul Bako       .210 .294 .283 .577 
    C. Patterson    .207 .243 .357 .600

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    It totally changed the entire at-bat. As a hitter, there's a HUGE difference between waiting for a 3-1 pitch with two outs and the bases loaded after having watched the pitcher walk the previous batter to force in a run, and waiting for a 2-2 pitch after seeing a pitch six inches off the plate get called for a strike. Andy Phillips figured he had to swing at anything, because he had just seen a terrible pitch get called for a strike.
    I agree, he had to bat defensive after the bad call. The ump basically set him up to fail.

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring~Fields View Post
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    Season against right handed pitching
    B. Phillips	.250 .294 .392 .686
    Encarnacion 	.228 .305 .452 .757 
    J. Keppinger 	.224 .263 .281 .545
    Paul Bako       .210 .294 .283 .577 
    C. Patterson    .207 .243 .357 .600
    My four were Patterson, Bako, Keppinger, and the pitcher. Encarnacion at least has some punch in his bat. But yeah.........
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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    Code:
    Final       1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  R  H  E  
    Pittsburgh  0  0  0  2  0  2  0  2  0  6 10  0 
    Cincinnati  0  0  0  2  1  1  0  1  0  5  9  1
    Scoring Summary
    Top 4th: Pittsburgh
    - F. Sanchez doubled to deep right center, N. Morgan scored

    - R. Doumit doubled to deep left center, F. Sanchez scored


    Bot 4th: Cincinnati
    - J. Votto homered to deep right

    - E. Encarnacion scored, J. Bruce to third on passed ball


    Bot 5th: Cincinnati
    - C. Dickerson homered to deep center


    Top 6th: Pittsburgh
    - R. Doumit singled to center, F. Sanchez scored, N. McLouth to third

    - A. LaRoche singled to right, N. McLouth scored, R. Doumit to second


    Bot 6th: Cincinnati
    - E. Encarnacion singled to left, J. Votto scored


    Top 8th: Pittsburgh
    - A. LaRoche singled to right, N. McLouth scored, R. Doumit to third

    - A. LaRoche singled to left center, R. Doumit scored, A. LaRoche to second


    Bot 8th: Cincinnati
    - R. Hanigan walked, E. Encarnacion scored, J. Bruce to third, J. Cabrera to second

    Batting Cincinnati
    2B - J Bruce (13, R Ohlendorf).

    3B - J Votto (2, R Ohlendorf).

    HR - J Votto (16, 4th inning off R Ohlendorf 0 on, 2 Out), C Dickerson (6, 5th inning off R Ohlendorf 0 on, 2 Out).

    RBI - J Votto (65), C Dickerson (12), E Encarnacion (58), R Hanigan (7).

    2-out RBI - J Votto, C Dickerson, R Hanigan.

    Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - A Phillips 2, P Bako 1, C Patterson 1.

    GIDP - J Keppinger.

    Team LOB - 7.

    Fielding
    E - J Affeldt (1, throw).

    DP - 1 (J Keppinger-B Phillips-J Votto).

    Batting Pittsburgh
    2B - N Morgan (6, E Volquez); F Sanchez (25, E Volquez); R Doumit (29, E Volquez).

    S - N McLouth.

    RBI - F Sanchez (48), R Doumit 2 (53), Ad LaRoche 2 (61), An LaRoche (13).

    Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - J Michaels 1, An LaRoche 1, B Bixler 1.

    GIDP - Ad LaRoche.

    Team LOB - 8.

    Base Running
    SB - N McLouth 2 (17, 2nd base off J Affeldt/P Bako, 2nd base off E Volquez/P Bako), N Morgan (5, 2nd base off F Cordero/R Hanigan).

    Fielding
    PB - R Doumit.

    DP - 1 (F Sanchez-B Bixler-Ad LaRoche).

    Pitching
    Code:
    Pittsburgh
    R. Ohlendorf 6.0 7 4 3 1 2 2 4.50  
    T.J. Beam    0.1 1 0 0 0 1 0 3.97  
    T. Yates     0.2 0 0 0 0 0 0 5.14  (W, 5-3)
    D. Bautista  0.2 0 1 1 1 0 0 4.41  (H, 6)
    J. Grabow    0.1 1 0 0 2 1 0 2.98  (H, 13)
    M. Capps     1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3.38  (S, 19)
     
    Cincinnati 
    E. Volquez  7.0 6 4 4 1 13 0 3.12  
    J. Affeldt  0.1 2 2 2 1 1 0 3.71  (L, 1-1)
    M. Lincoln  0.2 1 0 0 0 1 0 4.55  
    F. Cordero  1.0 1 0 0 2 0 0 3.58
    WP - J Affeldt.

    IBB - B Moss (by E Volquez), R Doumit (by F Cordero).

    HBP - F Sanchez (by E Volquez).

    Pitches-strikes - R Ohlendorf 90-56; T Beam 6-4; T Yates 3-1; D Bautista 10-4; J Grabow 17-6; M Capps 13-8; E Volquez 117-79; J Affeldt 19-11; M Lincoln 11-8; F Cordero 19-8.

    Ground balls-fly balls - R Ohlendorf 10-6; T Beam 0-0; T Yates 2-0; D Bautista 1-1; J Grabow 0-0; M Capps 2-0; E Volquez 2-6; J Affeldt 0-0; M Lincoln 1-0; F Cordero 3-0.

    Batters faced - R Ohlendorf 26; T Beam 2; T Yates 1; D Bautista 3; J Grabow 4; M Capps 3; E Volquez 29; J Affeldt 4; M Lincoln 3; F Cordero 5.

    Time: 3:16.
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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    My four were Patterson, Bako, Keppinger, and the pitcher. Encarnacion at least has some punch in his bat. But yeah.........
    Sorry, I thought that I was helping with some support info.

    I forgot about the pitcher

    Encarncion true .305 .452 .757

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    Did that loss make anyone else mad, or am I the only one at my age that cant take the loss?

    I need an icon for steam coming out of the ears. Save everyone time reading me.

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    Yeah. But I get mad at different things. Like Andy Phillips. Chased two bad pitches in that at-bat. That one call could have been negated with patience. For as much praise that is heaped on him, I don't see a reason for him to be around next year. The Reds need hitters from the right side.

    One more thing...why do we keep running Keppinger out there at short? I'd be sharing that spot with some of the kids. The season is over. Why are the Reds so gall-darned infatuated with Volquez winning 20 games? To the point of exhaustion.

    Finally, why Patterson always in CF? Automatic out on a team that needs every run and hit it can get.

    Pitching lost this game tonight, but those other things didn't help.
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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    There are currently two players I'd like to see back and a third candidate: Votto, Bruce, and Dickerson. The rest are completely fungible, IMO. I think they can be replaced by a variety of inhouse or other players. I hope WJ moves Phillips and EE in particular and it should be clear by now that Keppinger is not a regular.

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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    There are currently two players I'd like to see back and a third candidate: Votto, Bruce, and Dickerson. The rest are completely fungible, IMO. I think they can be replaced by a variety of inhouse or other players. I hope WJ moves Phillips and EE in particular and it should be clear by now that Keppinger is not a regular.
    Certainly wouldn't go that far, but it is clear that performance isn't there. Look at the lineup:

    Player - AVG - OBP - OPS -
    Kepp .262 .312 .660
    Phillips .263 .314 .768
    Bruce .257 .307 .731
    CPatt .199 .233 .571
    EdE .252 .338 .817
    Bako .204 .279 .594
    APhill .203 .314 .584

    How can you win with that (I added Andy Phillips because I see no reason for his being on this team along with Bako and Patterson)? Of the starters, this is an anemic club.

    Pray for Walt. Although the pitching lost this one, this offense has to be addressed.
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    Re: Reds vs Pirates 9/3/08

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Finally, why Patterson always in CF?
    Mulitple Choice

    Because the fans love him and pay good money to see him play?

    Because season ticket holders look forward to increased prices and Patterson in center?

    Because Fox wants to increase advertising revenue and Patterson is a key to getting a higher audience share, and to that success?


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