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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    122 pitches for Bronson. You can tell he's done. Great outing by Arroyo. Really nice to see him do a complete 180 this season. A lot of pitchers who've struggled as badly as Bronson did would've mentally packed it in. Nice to see some pride out of a veteran in a lost season.

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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    Arroyo out with one out, runner on second is his. 9-1 Reds.

    Bronson threw 122 pitches tonight....we will see how he does next time out.
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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    I'm serious when I say this: I would rather have Bob Boone or Dave Miley as manager over Dusty Baker

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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    A walk to Edmonds and a RBI double by Koyie Hill makes it 9-1. Thanks Dusty. Way to ruin a brilliant start by continuing to have no clue when to pull a pitcher.
    While I agree he should have been pulled after 6, I wouldn't go so far as to say that Arroyo's brilliant start ws ruined.

    And while 120 pitches is a lot, they were mostly stress free, given the Reds scoring early and often. That makes a big difference in assessing stress on the arm. Arroyo was throwing free and easy.

    Still there's no reason to send him out for the 7th inning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Now he pulls him. 122 pitches in 6.1 innings. I can't stand Dusty Baker.
    Now come on...120 is not really that bad of a thing...especially for a pitcher like Arroyo. I personally would've preferred he pulled him before this inning or after the lead off walk. Did he leave him in too long...yes, but not by much and it's far from abusing a pitcher.

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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    Even with an 8 run lead I don't feel comfortable with Majewski pitching.
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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    Dusty was prepared to let him go to 200 pitches to get Bronson the complete game.

    Hank said it's important for pitchers to throw complete games "for their confidence".
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

    I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
    Even with an 8 run lead I don't feel comfortable with Majewski pitching.
    whenever majic comes into a game, i suddenly lose interest, no matter what the score...

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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I'm serious when I say this: I would rather have Bob Boone or Dave Miley as manager over Dusty Baker
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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I'm serious when I say this: I would rather have Bob Boone or Dave Miley as manager over Dusty Baker
    Let's not get rash.
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

    I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    122 pitches for Bronson. You can tell he's done. Great outing by Arroyo. Really nice to see him do a complete 180 this season. A lot of pitchers who've struggled as badly as Bronson did would've mentally packed it in. Nice to see some pride out of a veteran in a lost season.
    FWIW, the stats (K's, W's and HR's allowed) suggest that Arroyo isn't doing anything different now other than getting better BABIP luck.

    He's basically had the same DIPS ERA for three years now, and while his actual ERA has dropped dramatically as the year has worn on, his DIPS ERA has remained pretty consistent all year. Which, if you believe in DIPS, was likely to happen.

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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    Are there no better options in the pen than Majewski?

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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    Get this guy out of the organization.
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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    How in the world does Gary Majewski still have a spot on this roster?

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    Re: Reds vs Cubs 9/5/08

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    How in the world does Gary Majewski still have a spot on this roster?
    add bako and patterson to that list


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