LMAO! I love it!
LMAO! I love it!
Ah, Bronson. My spanish is VERY rusty...I had to look up Sesenta. 61 for those of you in my boat. :O)
Yep, he's looked MIGHTY fine of late. And just think about all those "fans" who were ready to deal him at the ASB. Bandwagoners. :O)
For those that didn't catch him on the postgame, Bronson came out for an interviw and told Pecorro that in honor of his Hispanic heritage, he would only respond to the name of "Sesenta y Uno" (61) then turned around and he had it on a sign over Arroyo on the back of his Jersey. He said he would most likely change his name in the offseason. LOL
Last edited by corkedbat; 09-05-2008 at 10:43 PM.
Sorry, but after the hatchet job Arroyo pulled (and is continuing to pull) on Dunn, I don't have a lot of respect for him.
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I think the second item may not be possible though. While there are several suitable arms available (starting pitching may be the deepest position - qualitysise - in this year's FA crop). but I have serious doubts that any top starter would come here (given the GAB's growinf rep as alaunching pad) if they have another halfway competitive offer.
Volquez, Harang, Cueto and Arroyo stay intact though, unless a FA starter is signed. We don't have enough bartering chips to fill the position needs we have and acquire another frontline starter.
Last edited by corkedbat; 09-06-2008 at 02:37 AM.
Yes, I know Dunn refuted it. But why are we so quick to assume Bronson's lying and Dunn's telling the truth? I've yet to see either of them flat out lie. I'd prefer to give the Reds player the benefit of the doubt. Was there some other statement by Bronson that would constitute a "hatchet job" that I missed?...."A little bit because it came after the deadline. But he was going to be moved no matter what. I don't know if he told (the media) but he made it was no secret to us that he was looking for $100 to $120 million contract. I don't think this franchise is going to give out that kind of contract."
Why wouldn't Dunn look for a $100+ million contract? All agents start with highball numbers in negotiating. What Bronson Arroyo said could have been safely said by just about anyone. Of course Dunn is looking for that kind of money. He won't find it, but I'm sure that's where his agent will start in the negotiating process. It wasn't a hatchet job at all, imho.
As has been pointed out, the Reds have a lot of needs and not many chips to deal. Pitching (in the form of Arroyo) might be the one thing they could deal to fill two holes. If Bronson were under his old contract I would think it would be a slam dunk. So, I'm happy he's pitching well---it ups his trade value.
There is also a hugh side value to trading Arroyo----the end of those horrid JTM commercials! :
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I also think Bronson is being given a bad rap here. Nothing he has said seemed a hatchet job on Dunn to me.
I wanted the Reds to sign Dunn but I still think the Reds need Arroyo's innings to protect the rest of the staff (that means the other young starters that are here and on the way as well as the bullpen). Face it, he's been the team's best starter since early June.
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So what are you guys saying...Bronson should either keep his mouth closed when asked a question, or lie? I find it VERY refreshing for a pro athlete to speak his mind and state the truth at the same time. Nothing Bronson has said is untrue as far as I know. The Reds DON'T need a 40 HR guy. They DON'T need outfielders who can't hit for a halfway decent average. And they DON'T need piss-poor defenders in the outfield. Bronson's one of the few pro athletes willing to step up and say the things that everybody knows but won't admit.
And in regards to dealing Bronson...I again disagree. Yes we've got some promising young starters coming up, but they are VERY young. We've finally gotten to the point where we've got a pretty darned good rotation. Don't deal the established and successful ones. If you've got to deal a starter or two...deal a prospect. Besides...what exactly are our needs? A SS, CF & C. Correct? CF looks to be covered for the short & long run via our in-house kids (Dickerson, Stubbs, Cumberland, etc) and with vets backing them up if they falter (Freel, Hairston). SS looks to be a problem for next season possibly, but Keppinger is a pretty decent fall-back player with Gonzales also a short term solution possibly. With more young kids coming up soon (Janish, Valiaka, Rosales, Frazier, Soto, etc) that can shift our infield positioning (Phillips to SS with a kid at 2B). Catcher is looking "better" with Hanigan in there, but we could certainly use an upgrade there (Mesaraco?)...but that's the one position that pretty much every team is looking to upgrade, so the odds are we won't be able to significantly. So I vote that we stick with the youth movement and keep our core pitching staff. We've got a LOT of players coming off the books next year that will open up slots for the youngsters coming up. If we do try to fill those 3 voids, I'd like to see them filled by short term solutions and try to build from within.