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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    Quote Originally Posted by Will M View Post
    The Rockies can't ask a lot in return for a one year rental. Holliday is leaving Colorado. From their standpoint Phillips plus Maloney is a lot better than 2 draft picks. From the Reds standpoint IF they get a 72 hour window its a good deal for us. This trade was just an example.

    Phillips will go ( my prediction ) to fix problems elsewhere.

    I don't suggest platooning Richar and Kep. This is just one idea. I would try Kep, Richar, Rosales or even Hairston at 2B until Valaika is ready. Heck if we get a better SS gonzalez could play 2B. The point is we have lots of options here and a good prospect in AA which we have holes elsewhere. Add to it Phillips's HR & SB total look good but his OPS+ is pedestrian and we have a prime trade candidate.
    Maloney isn't going to excite a trade partner. If the choice is MM or a comp pick, the choice is probably comp pick.
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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    Phillips broke his finger, and had to have surgery, right? I wouldn't trade for him with the expectation that he'll necessarily be the same hitter he was before.
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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    Phillips broke his finger, and had to have surgery, right? I wouldn't trade for him with the expectation that he'll necessarily be the same hitter he was before.
    He should be better! I wouldn't worry about Phillips injury. That is a pretty common procedure. He would probably be back mid October if the Reds needed him.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    As screwball points out, it's not "give up" -- it's "cash in".
    I just don't think you'd be cashing in right now. He's hurt and played tired the 2nd half. Last year might've been cashing out and certainly they should've listened to offers. But he's an atheletic 27yo and the odds are that he'll play his best baseball over the next few years at a reasonable cost and provide a few things this team lacks -- defense, speed and righty power.

    Considering this team's needs, if I were to trade Brandon Phillips, I'd want two or three potential Brandon Phillipses back.
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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    From Fay's blog:

    The Reds are shooting a video -- for a 2009 promo I assume. The participants are Joey Votto, Brandon Phillips, Jay Bruce, Johnny Cueto and Jeff Keppinger. This is probably reading too much into it, but you'd think none of those guys will be traded. So does Edwin Encarnacion not being part of it mean anything?

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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    From Fay's blog:

    The Reds are shooting a video -- for a 2009 promo I assume. The participants are Joey Votto, Brandon Phillips, Jay Bruce, Johnny Cueto and Jeff Keppinger. This is probably reading too much into it, but you'd think none of those guys will be traded. So does Edwin Encarnacion not being part of it mean anything?

    http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...cincinnati.com
    Volquez, Harang, and Cordero aren't on it either. Guess they're on the block too?
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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Volquez, Harang, and Cordero aren't on it either. Guess they're on the block too?
    Fay is just a blockhead. I think he's reading way too much into that.
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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    Maybe, maybe not. I've thought all along that Edwin would be traded if the right deal comes along. Why? Because both the manager and GM love defense, that's why.

    And the excuse that Harang, Volquez, etc. weren't in there doesn't hold water. All four included are position players--no pitchers. And I wouldn't bet the farm that if the right deal comes along, they could be missing, too. It's kind of like the argument of Griffey's 600th HR meaning he would stay with the Reds. All the banners and such didn't protect him from being traded. I think Fay raises an interesting question.
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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. I've thought all along that Edwin would be traded if the right deal comes along. Why? Because both the manager and GM love defense, that's why.

    And the excuse that Harang, Volquez, etc. weren't in there doesn't hold water. All four included are position players--no pitchers. And I wouldn't bet the farm that if the right deal comes along, they could be missing, too. It's kind of like the argument of Griffey's 600th HR meaning he would stay with the Reds. All the banners and such didn't protect him from being traded. I think Fay raises an interesting question.
    The participants are Joey Votto, Brandon Phillips, Jay Bruce, Johnny Cueto and Jeff Keppinger
    Not that it means much but hey.
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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    That seems like a really random group of players if you ask me...
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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    Injured players get pennies on the dollar in trade, even when the injury's not that bad. Looks like the Reds aren't going to move Phillips this offseason. Maybe spring. I don't really mind because he's a good defender, but I like having options open.

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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    From Fay's blog:

    The Reds are shooting a video -- for a 2009 promo I assume. The participants are Joey Votto, Brandon Phillips, Jay Bruce, Johnny Cueto and Jeff Keppinger. This is probably reading too much into it, but you'd think none of those guys will be traded. So does Edwin Encarnacion not being part of it mean anything?

    http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...cincinnati.com
    Kearns and Lopez were all over the website and IIRC the tickets for the season ticket holders in the year of the trade.
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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    I guess the plan is to have Keppinger back. Hopefully not as the starting SS.

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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

    Adam Kennedy wants out of St. Louis, asking for a trade, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

    Any chance we'd be interested if Phillips winds up in Colorado or elsewhere?

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    Re: Bold prediction: Brandon Phillips has played his last game as a Red

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    Adam Kennedy wants out of St. Louis, asking for a trade, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

    Any chance we'd be interested if Phillips winds up in Colorado or elsewhere?
    I sure hope not.
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