Is the pitching a coincidence?

[akron3344]

Its all defense griffey and dunn were the absolute worst

[mace]

I don't know how to quantify the effect of good defense on pitching. It stands to reason that with fewer fly balls falling in for hits instead of being run down as outs, the pitching numbers would improve. I don't know how to evaluate it objectively other than with large samples over the course of two successive seasons. Even then, it could be argued that any gain in pitching proficiency was attributable to improved command and not better defense. At the end of the season I will attempt to provide a statistical treatment. That will still be a small sample, but it will provide fodder for discussion over the winter months when there is little else to post.

I don't think the combined pitching/hitting/defense effect has been mentioned, but runs the scored/runs allowed differential has changed sense mid August as well. At the time of the trade, the Reds were -100. Now they are -83. Thus, they have gone from a differential of -.84 runs per game to +.53 per game. Again, let's check in at the end of the season to see if the difference is significant.

[mace]

Red Van . . . If you do that study, would you be so kind as to post it on sundeck so that more of us could participate in the discussion (since that's where it started)?

[RED VAN HOT]

Red Van . . . If you do that study, would you be so kind as to post it on sundeck so that more of us could participate in the discussion (since that's where it started)?

I certainly will.

[Kingspoint]

People overrate defense around here. It's mostly just Harang and Arroyo.

People underrate defense around here.

The value of good defensive players is measured in the Win-Loss Column.

There's an umbrella of confidence covering a team that plays good defense.