Turn Off Ads?
Page 2 of 20 FirstFirst 12345612 ... LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 287

Thread: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

  1. #16
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Shelburne Falls, MA
    Posts
    10,071

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Chris Heisey is playing winter ball in Puerto Rico according to a poster over on Doug's site.
    Good to hear. This guy's closer to the majors than people realize, I think.
    "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #17
    Danger is my business! oneupper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Back in Florida
    Posts
    8,143

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Quote Originally Posted by phantomo88 View Post
    This article seems to say (Using google translations) that MLB is not going to let Ramirez pitch due in the first half to "Extreme Fatigue".
    Nice Catch. Actually, its the Reds and not MLB who aren't allowing Ramirez to pitch with Magallanes of the Venezuelan league.

    They cite an agreement between MLB and the winter leagues concerning this type of case. I'm really unaware of the details of that agreement. Maybe someone else can elaborate.
    "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

    http://dalmady.blogspot.com

  4. #18
    Danger is my business! oneupper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Back in Florida
    Posts
    8,143

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Chris Heisey is playing winter ball in Puerto Rico according to a poster over on Doug's site.
    I thought this was an error, since the Puerto Rican league pretty much went out of business last year (there was no 2007-08 season).

    Apparently there is a new league with interleague play with the Dominican League. This season will be a short one, starting in early november.

    I wonder how the Valentin brothers made out..their old team (Manati) does not seem to be in the new league.
    "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

    http://dalmady.blogspot.com

  5. #19
    Member OnBaseMachine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    34,844

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    I thought this was an error, since the Puerto Rican league pretty much went out of business last year (there was no 2007-08 season).

    Apparently there is a new league with interleague play with the Dominican League. This season will be a short one, starting in early november.

    I wonder how the Valentin brothers made out..their old team (Manati) does not seem to be in the new league.
    According to milb.com, the Puerto Rican League begins on November 6th and the postseason starts on January 7th.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

  6. #20
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    4,657

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Any word on where Neftali Soto might be playing in the offseason?

  7. #21
    The Boss dougdirt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    35,107

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    Any word on where Neftali Soto might be playing in the offseason?
    He is in Instructional League right now. I haven't seen anything suggesting that he would be playing anywhere else.

  8. #22
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    4,657

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Thanks, Doug. Your knowledge and responsiveness are much appreciated.

    Was wondering what people thought the natural progression might be for a young hotshot like Duran or YRodriguez. I'd think the earliest you could target somebody for the big leagues would be 21 or so. That would suggest you'd pace them for AAA at 20/21, AA at 19/20, High A at 18/19, Low A at 18. Of course, everybody's different in their maturity levels, etc., but in grossly general terms do you think maybe Rookie League at 17? Is it possible that those two could pop up at Billings sometime next year?
    Last edited by mace; 10-13-2008 at 11:35 AM.

  9. #23
    The Boss dougdirt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    35,107

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    Thanks, Doug. Your knowledge and responsiveness is much appreciated.

    Was wondering what people thought the natural progression might be for a young hotshot like Duran or YRodriguez. I'd think the earliest you could target somebody for the big leagues would be 21 or so. That would suggest you'd pace them for AAA at 20/21, AA at 19/20, High A at 18/19, Low A at 18. Of course, everybody's different in their maturity levels, etc., but in grossly general terms do you think maybe Rookie League at 17? Is it possible that those two could pop up at Billings sometime next year?
    I expect both Rodriguez and Duran playing for the GCL Reds next year at age 17. Both are currently in the states playing in instructional league right now. Duran's body has a lot of room for growth. Saw a picture of him yesterday playing down there, he will certainly grow into his body over the next few years.

  10. #24
    Member medford's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Posts
    2,081

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Doug, what's the word on their progress in instructional league? Ahead of where they thought they'd be, behind, even?

    Must be strange playing games that never count in a standing, never get noticed by a news organization, and very few people care about.

  11. #25
    Member OnBaseMachine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    34,844

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    I hope the Reds are patient with kids like Duran and Yorman. The Mets always seem to rush their kids (Carlos Gomez, Fernando Martinez) instead of letting them develop on their own timetable. I would start Duran and Yorman in the GCL next year and probably let them play their the whole year. There's no need to rush them.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

  12. #26
    The Boss dougdirt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    35,107

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Quote Originally Posted by medford View Post
    Doug, what's the word on their progress in instructional league? Ahead of where they thought they'd be, behind, even?

    Must be strange playing games that never count in a standing, never get noticed by a news organization, and very few people care about.
    That one I don't know. I have been gone all weekend and I am sick as can be today. I got an email this weekend with some pictures from a game last week so I haven't had any time to talk with the guy who sent them about anything yet.

  13. #27
    He sure could hit HalMorrisRules's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Dayton
    Posts
    703

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    This article gives a nice overview of the Hawaiian League including some notes on Todd Frazier.

    Hawaiian League

    Here is a link to the stats for the Hawaiian League:

    Waikiki Beach Boys Stats

    If you then go to the League Leaders page, Alonso and Frazier are all over the offensive leaders stats.

  14. #28
    BobC, get a legit F.O.! Mario-Rijo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Springfield, Ohio
    Posts
    9,052

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Quote Originally Posted by HalMorrisRules View Post
    This article gives a nice overview of the Hawaiian League including some notes on Todd Frazier.

    Hawaiian League

    Here is a link to the stats for the Hawaiian League:

    Waikiki Beach Boys Stats

    If you then go to the League Leaders page, Alonso and Frazier are all over the offensive leaders stats.
    Thanks Hal very handy.
    "You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one."

    --Woody Hayes

  15. #29
    Member OnBaseMachine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    34,844

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Here are some others:

    Dominican Winter League:

    Ramon Geronimo - Aguilas Cibaenas
    Denis Phipps - Estrellas de Oriente
    Juan Francisco - Gigantes del Cibao

    Venezuelan Winter League:

    Luis Bolivar - Aguilas del Zulia
    Justin Mallett - Bravos de Margarita
    Yuber Rodriguez - Cardenales de Lara
    Alex Gonzalez - Leones del Caracas
    Jon Adkins - Navegantes del Magallanes
    Ramon Ramirez - Navegantes del Magallanes
    Tonys Gutierrez - Tigres de Aragua

    Mexican Winter League:

    Daniel Guerrero - Algodoneros de Guasave

    The Puerto Rican League doesn't begin until early November so their rosters have yet to be released. The other Caribbean Leagues began today or yesterday.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

  16. #30
    Member OnBaseMachine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    34,844

    Re: Confirmed Reds playing in the AFL/Hawaii/Winter Ball

    Juan Francisco went 1-for-5 in his first game last night. It's nice to see him getting a starting gig. Hopefully he can get plenty of atbats against some pretty solid competition.
    I miss Adam Dunn.


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25