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    Re: My view on the Reds farm system by position (very long read)

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    With Stubbs, I think the low batting average and just "potential" power are one in the same. If and when he really squares one up, it goes a long ways. The problem is that he's not particularly adept at squaring it up. He's one of those guys for whom some adjust in his stroke can have significant affects because it won't just up his contact rate but could unlock his power potential at the same time.
    So does Stubbs right now fall into the "Wily Mo, Jr." category, only with better defensive tools?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Still, being able to barrel up a ball consistently is not really a skill players can make significant gains in, in my opinion. I'm pretty resigned to Stubbs being an average offensive player, all things considered -- which is acceptable for a plus defensive CF.
    Stubbs centers the ball very well. He just doesn't get under it a lot of the time. He hits lots of line drives all around the field right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    So does Stubbs right now fall into the "Wily Mo, Jr." category, only with better defensive tools?
    No. Wily Mo can't hit anything but a fastball and an occasional hanging breaking ball and doesn't exactly walk much either.

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    Re: My view on the Reds farm system by position (very long read)

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Stubbs centers the ball very well. He just doesn't get under it a lot of the time. He hits lots of line drives all around the field right now.
    Fair enough, Doug. It could very well be that he just doesn't have loft in his swing. Do you happen to have GB/LD/FB and HR/FB splits?
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Fair enough, Doug. It could very well be that he just doesn't have loft in his swing. Do you happen to have GB/LD/FB and HR/FB splits?
    GB - 42.5%
    LD - 24.1%
    FB - 33.4%

    As for HR/FB, no... but I am sure if someone wanted to do the math, they could.

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    Re: My view on the Reds farm system by position (very long read)

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I see about 20-25 games a year from Dayton (in person and a handful on tv, which I record on DVR so I can go back and break stuff down) and about 100 or so games a year from Louisville (mostly online with their video package that I can go back and watch whenever I want). I talk to several people in Billings and Chattanooga throughout the year as well as getting some video clips of those two places every now and again. I also have some contact with a few players in the system who give me their thoughts on guys as well as talking with people in the industry (scouts/coaches). I really only have 1 contact that gets to see Sarasota play often, so that is generally the hardest full season level for me to give fully confident reports on, however there were two players I have contact with who played there this year so that helped out some.
    Thanks for the info. It's pretty amazing how much one can follow minor leaguers these days without even making the connections that you have. With the technology available the difference between now and even 10 years ago is light years.

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    Re: My view on the Reds farm system by position (very long read)

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    GB - 42.5%
    LD - 24.1%
    FB - 33.4%

    As for HR/FB, no... but I am sure if someone wanted to do the math, they could.
    I come out with roughly 1/17 HR/FB for this season, work below.

    548 PA's - 195 PA (K's, BB's, HBP) = 353/33.4% = 118 (roughly) /7 (HR's) = 17 (roughly)
    Did I miss anything?

    To be exact it would be.....1/16.84 (117.902/7)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    I come out with roughly 1/17 HR/FB for this season, work below.



    Did I miss anything?

    To be exact it would be.....1/16.84 (117.902/7)
    The only thing I would have also used would be sac hits (not flies) and bunts because he wasn't going to hit a fly ball on a bunt/sac bunt and wasn't trying to. Shouldn't change the numbers much though.

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    Re: My view on the Reds farm system by position (very long read)

    I don't have time to add all the commentary that I'd like, but I'd like to throw a couple things out there:

    1. The Reds have some decent catching prospects in the low minors. I'm thinking of Kyle Day (if he can stick to the position) and Jordan Wideman (if his bat continues to progress) in particular. Wideman is particularly young, so he's got plenty of time to figure things out.

    2. Justin Reed is a good wild card for center field, but one guy who is often forgotten is Alex Oliveras, who in my humble opinion, is almost equally as good of a prospect. But the guy I like more than both of them is the 5'9" Dave Sappelt.


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