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    What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    If Bob tells you to "go for it" and go get C.C. Sabathia? 6 years for $120 mil? Just throwing a number out there....

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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    6 years $120 could be an albatross of a contract for a big guy with poor conditioning. Still, CC is one of the only players I'd consider giving that much. He proved his value with the Brew Crew over the past few months.
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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    If Bob tells you to "go for it" and go get C.C. Sabathia? 6 years for $120 mil? Just throwing a number out there....
    It probably wouldn't get him. Somebody else will pay that and all things equal, the Reds probably lose.
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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    Bob is going to need to tell me a lot more than "go for it" if he wants to me both be in the game for CC and keep the franchise healthy.

    There is no generic "worth it" here -- it depends on what your revenues are and what your risk tolerance is. If Bob demands we sign him, the answer is the highest offer plus whatever else it takes to sign him. If Bob demands we simply make him priority #1, I offer him 6 & 100 and then walk away when a half dozen teams give him more money.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    We're not in the market for Sabathia. My guess is he'll end up a Yankee. We need to target hitters anyway.

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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    I would pay him a lot of money, but not for as long as he wants a contract for.

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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

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    CC is really out of shape. Giving him a LTC is foolish.

    Compare:
    CC - 6 years $120M+
    Lowe - 3 years $45M

    CC right now is a better pitcher than Lowe but the risks of giving him a long term fat deal are too high. Better to give a guy like Lowe a medium term not so fat deal.
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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    Rick Reuschel was out of shape too and he did pretty good. David Wells was out of shape and he pitched pretty well late in his career with back injuries to boot.

    CC is worth all of a 6 year 120 Million contract. Bob doesn't have that kind of loot to throw around but CC will look good in pinstripes at 7 years 150 million.
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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Team Clark View Post
    Rick Reuschel was out of shape too and he did pretty good. David Wells was out of shape and he pitched pretty well late in his career with back injuries to boot.

    CC is worth all of a 6 year 120 Million contract. Bob doesn't have that kind of loot to throw around but CC will look good in pinstripes at 7 years 150 million.
    I believe CC when he says he wants to stay in the NL and would prefer the west coast. I'm probably being naive, but I don't think he ends up a Yankee. My money is on the Dodgers, with them keeping Manny and paying somebody a nice chunk of change to take Andruw Jones.
    Last edited by RedsManRick; 09-28-2008 at 09:53 PM. Reason: East != West
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    Phillies or Mets?
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    Me personally...25 million for 1 year. And I tell him I'll renew it each year for the same amount adjusted for MLB inflation if he pitches as well as he did in 08.

    He'd never go for that I know...but if the Reds payroll is along the lines of past years...you can't place a 120 million dollar bet on his arm. I'm sorry but if I'm Walt, I pass.

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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    No way. His results have been amazing this year, but I wouldn't give any pitcher on the planet that kind of deal.

    Whoever gives Sabathia more than 3 years (and I agree - somebody will give him double that) will reap what the Mets and Yankees are reaping with Pedro and Giambi respectively. A good year or two and then an ugly back end. Many long term deals for stars look good when you make them. Few work out.
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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    He's better than Zito, and look at the contract he got...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    He's better than Zito, and look at the contract he got...
    Ironically, Zito is why Sabathia won't get as much as Zito got.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: What would you pay for C.C. Sabathia?

    Sabathia is the best lefty in the game. Zito had a scarlett A (albatross) on his forehead entering free agency that ANYONE should've been able to recognize.
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