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    Lohse A Long Term Card?

    It's rumoured, and the Cards have called a press conference for this afternoon, to announce they have signed Lohse to a long term contract.

    The St. Louis Post states that the contract will be in the neighbourhood (my words) of Carlos Silva's 4 year, $48M deal.

    Lohse has averaged a 10-11 record, 4.67 ERA over his 7.5 years in the majors.

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    4 years, $48 million for Kyle Lohse?!? Holy cow. Very bad move for the Cards IMO. Lohse had a solid season but still allowed 211 hits in 200 IP and had a low K/9 rate of 5.32. This could come back to bite the Cards.
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    Agree with OBM, and I hope the Cards do it. Should backfire on them nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    Agree with OBM, and I hope the Cards do it. Should backfire on them nicely.
    It will hurt them on the field and in the pocketbook...I like that.

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    Re: Lohse A Long Term Card?

    sounds like a good move for the Reds
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    Re: Lohse A Long Term Card?

    Hopefully they'll have lots of Bad Kyle in their future!

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    Re: Lohse A Long Term Card?

    Goold and Strauss say the Cardinals earmarked about $15-16MM for the rotation this winter. That means Lohse is the big signing and the other pitcher will be a bargain buy. The Cards will use another $15MM or so to fill other needs.
    They spent all their money for upgrading the rotation on Lohse. I will be interested to see how they spend the rest of their money.

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    Re: Lohse A Long Term Card?

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    sounds like a good move for the Reds
    My thoughts exactly.
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    Re: Lohse A Long Term Card?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmarilloRed View Post
    They spent all their money for upgrading the rotation on Lohse. I will be interested to see how they spend the rest of their money.
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    Re: Lohse A Long Term Card?

    Final, $41M over 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Final, $41M over 4 years.
    That's still fairly brutal. They're paying Lohse like an ace/No. 2 starter when he's actually a No. 4 starter.
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    Re: Lohse A Long Term Card?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    That's still fairly brutal. They're paying Lohse like an ace/No. 2 starter when he's actually a No. 4 starter.
    How can you say that? The No. 4 is correct but the pay is not close to an ace/No. 2....Have you seen the contracts that aces get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulrichjr View Post
    How can you say that? The No. 4 is correct but the pay is not close to an ace/No. 2....Have you seen the contracts that aces get?
    Here's just a list of pitchers making less or around what Lohse will be getting paid. Those guys are all aces/No.2 starters IMO.

    Harang: $6.75 million
    Webb: $5.5
    Haren: $4.05
    Sabathia: $11.0
    Halladay: $10.0
    Peavy: $6.5
    Matsuzaka: $8.3
    Sheets: $12.15
    Oswalt: $13.00
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Lohse A Long Term Card?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    That's still fairly brutal. They're paying Lohse like an ace/No. 2 starter when he's actually a No. 4 starter.
    They're paying him to be something at or below league average. Basically they are paying him to be 2 to 2.5 wins better than replacement. That's like an ERA of 4.50-4.70 over 200 innings.

    Really, they aren't paying him to be an ace. They're paying him to eat innings.
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    Re: Lohse A Long Term Card?

    If I were a GM, there's no way I would give Kyle Lohse a 4 year, 41 million contract. That's a bad move IMO. The guy has been very hittable throughout his career and doesn't miss many bats. Like flyer said, this is a good move for the Reds and the rest of the NL Central.
    Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 09-29-2008 at 09:06 PM.
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