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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Document went platinum...
    But up to Document, they were pretty word-of-mouth.

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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Are we talking about the best, or the most important? Can someone define what "band of the aughts" means?
    How do you define "most important?" The answer is: you don't; until you can hear their influence in future bands.

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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    I think record sales is a simple sign of popularity across the market. If your big into the genre, then yeah you probably know group so and so. But if someone like R.E.M. has a couple platinum albums, then they appear to appeal to fans of all genres. Group x, although popular to a genre, may not be popular on the grand sceme of things. So when you look back in 20 years your average person is going to know bands like R.E.M., Zepplin, Beatles, Stones, and so on.

    Coldplay seems pretty reasonable, but I don't think there is that ONE band you can obviously point out
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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    But up to Document, they were pretty word-of-mouth.

    I guess we will just have to wait for My Morning Jacket's platinum albums...
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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    How do you define "most important?" The answer is: you don't; until you can hear their influence in future bands.
    Does it have to be most important to other bands? What about most important to rock music fans?
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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Does it have to be most important to other bands? What about most important to rock music fans?
    What the heck does "important" mean? Record sales.

    Decide what you're deciding: biggest band or best band or biggest and best. Most important isn't a category.
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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    Me either. WGB sells out stadiums and people get up at ungodly hours of the morning to buy tickets to their shows.

    This is how things are with bands like Tool and Nine Inch Nails as well. It is impossible to get NIN tickets from what I hear. Do they seem like that big of an influence though?
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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephenk29 View Post
    This is how things are with bands like Tool and Nine Inch Nails as well. It is impossible to get NIN tickets from what I hear. Do they seem like that big of an influence though?
    Ah, Nine Inch Nails is a band that has been overlooked in this discussion, worth a decent amount of consideration although their principle commercial success was back in the 90s.

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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    After all of this, I am still hard pressed to nominate a potential band for the aughts at this time.

    I think others have hit on why this is so hard and it is certainly not for lack of "good music" (by whatever definition you wish). There is just so much music so readily available that people are going to be more spread out for lack of a better term.

    As disconnected as I may have been, I still love music, listen to the radio, and for over a year have had XM , which is helping me "re-expand" for sure. I have loved the discussion here, and it is making me go back to checking out some stuff on the web for the first time in a while.
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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    What the heck does "important" mean? Record sales.

    Decide what you're deciding: biggest band or best band or biggest and best. Most important isn't a category.
    I don't think band of the aughts means either biggest or best. I think most important is a category because just like band of the aughts, it can't be quantified.

    It can't be biggest because the highest sellers aren't always the ones that have staying power or meaning; but at the same time it can't be best because best is controversial and what was thought of as best by some might not go down as best in the history books...
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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    What the heck does "important" mean? Record sales.
    Not _just_ music sales. Touring sales, DVD sales, merch sales, publishing, publishing, publishing and maybe a bit of publishing.

    WGB inspires the masses to buy into them.

    I bet sale of music isn't even a primary source of income.

    Decide what you're deciding: biggest band
    = popularity

    or best band
    = taste

    or biggest and best.
    Both and neither.

    Most important isn't a category.
    Sure it is, but it's one of them there subjective discussions.
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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Have a look at this.

    It only lists album sales but it's a pretty interesting list. There are some acts (like Queen) that haven't really been considered in this thread (sorry if someone mentioned them and I missed it). You might have to filter out the non-rock acts mentally, but it's pretty interesting.
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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephenk29 View Post
    This is how things are with bands like Tool and Nine Inch Nails as well. It is impossible to get NIN tickets from what I hear. Do they seem like that big of an influence though?
    I don't think so. I don't think NIN is really "rock."

    Now, if they play 250 sold out shows at venues that average 30k people a year for 10 years, maybe.
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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    Have a look at this.

    It only lists album sales but it's a pretty interesting list. There are some acts (like Queen) that haven't really been considered in this thread (sorry if someone mentioned them and I missed it). You might have to filter out the non-rock acts mentally, but it's pretty interesting.
    Queen?

    No ever talks about them here.

    http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37413
    http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70866
    http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41310
    http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53517
    http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30242

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    Re: Band of the aughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    I don't think so. I don't think NIN is really "rock."

    Now, if they play 250 sold out shows at venues that average 30k people a year for 10 years, maybe.
    NIN isn't rock!?

    Please, do explain...
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