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  • Neftali Soto

    78 59.09%
  • Drew Stubbs

    28 21.21%
  • Juan Duran

    7 5.30%
  • Yorman Rodriguez

    0 0%
  • Chris Valaika

    3 2.27%
  • Kyle Lotzkar

    3 2.27%
  • Devin Mesoraco

    0 0%
  • Danny Dorn

    6 4.55%
  • Zach Stewart

    1 0.76%
  • Juan Francisco

    0 0%
  • Daryl Thompson

    4 3.03%
  • Carlos Fisher

    0 0%
  • Josh Roenicke

    2 1.52%
  • Ramon Ramirez

    0 0%
  • Chris Dickerson

    0 0%
  • Zach Cozart

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Thread: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    I think a special bat has a lot more value than a special glove. Even if Soto looks like a defensive liability, his bat probably means he can be dealt for something more valuable than a plus plus CF who we hope will scrape together enough of an offensive game to stay in the line-up. That CF is Corey Patterson if he can't play on the offensive side.

    I was impressed by Stubbs progress in 2008 as well and I have him at number 4, but Frazier, Alonso and Soto are clearly a cut above the rest of these guys IMO.
    Last edited by mth123; 10-19-2008 at 09:27 PM.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    I'm not enamored with the potential of any of the higher level-'spects, so I went with the pitcher with the most upside--Kyle Lotzkar...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Easily Soto, because he was easily the #2 prospect for me. .340 BA and a .550 SLG at age 19. Just simply ridiculous.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    If Im not mistaken the only, I mean only reason Soto isnt playing SS is because of Cozart is a better defensive SS and Soto's great hitting skills warranted him going to Dayton. I saw 3 or 4 Dayton games last year and he's got a cannon arm and he was learning 3rd, not sure how his defense came into question...folks this kid is got future major league all-star written all over him.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    I had Soto at #1. his numbers this year combined with his age put him a a Jay Bruce level as far as hitting goes. Maybe a hair behind, maybe. That means he's performed at a higher level than Yonder at a younger age. Alonso may be more polished, but I doubt we can clearly state he has a higher ceiling.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    So I have to go Duran who seems to be our top 16 year old signee, capable of being a megastar.
    Jax, did you go to Sarasota and get a first hand look at the kid in instrux?
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Nice turnout so far. Already 85 votes with just over 30 hours left to vote. The next one is gonna be the toughest of all for me so far. I'm torn between Kyle Lotzkar and Drew Stubbs for #4. I'm not sure how I'm going to vote, it'll probably come down to the last minute. Either way, those guys are four and five for me.
    Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 10-20-2008 at 12:24 PM.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Nice turnout so far. Already 85 votes with just over 30 hours left to vote. The next one is gonna be the toughest of all for me so far. I'm torn between Kyle Lotzkar and Drew Stubbs for #4. I'm not sure how I'm going to vote, it'll probably come down to the last minute. Either way, those guys are four and five for me.
    I like Lotzkar but I'm not as much of a ceiling guy as a lot of people. He is probably the second most interesting starter behind Homer Bailey if he is healthy but I tend to have a bias towards guys who have shown consistent production. I'd go with Valaika and Dorn with my next two choices.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Jax, did you go to Sarasota and get a first hand look at the kid in instrux?

    Actually........ wife and I made a decision to go to

    1) Rays/Boston playoff game
    2) Arizona for Fall League from 31 Oct to 3 Nov

    instead

    It was tough call.......
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    I think Soto is incredibly overrated by the board. I think he is an incredibly talented hitter who is incredibly raw and needs to find a defensive home... hardly a #1 prospect... and in my opinion more of a 5 or 6 in our organization.

    I went with Valiaka here, also needing a defensive home, but more polished. I think he has shown he can hit at the upper levels and could possibly be a Jeff Kent type 2nd baseman... good pop, average defense average range. I think he is as close of a sure bet to be a productive ML player in this system.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Soto's not overrated at all IMO. He's 19 years old and is coming off a season in which he hit .340 with a .920 OPS. Yeah he's raw, but that makes his season even more impressive if you ask me. Imagine what he can do when he polishes up his game.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Actually........ wife and I made a decision to go to

    1) Rays/Boston playoff game
    2) Arizona for Fall League from 31 Oct to 3 Nov

    instead

    It was tough call.......
    whew -- nice

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Soto's not overrated at all IMO. He's 19 years old and is coming off a season in which he hit .340 with a .920 OPS. Yeah he's raw, but that makes his season even more impressive if you ask me. Imagine what he can do when he polishes up his game.
    And I reiterate. How soon will he be MLB ready? Personally, I prefer to look at those who are close to the Big Leagues. I have had enough of "wait until next year",,,,, or the next, or the next. It's time to get moving. Now that the tumors are gone, this team could get good in a hurry.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Stubbs is reputedly a superb centerfielder. Given his good hitting at advanced levels, he edges out Soto for me in the number three spot. If Stubbs hits for an .800 OPS at AAA next year, he becomes a viable candidate -- along with Alonso -- for the Reds top overall prospect.
    Great fielding CF's who OPS .800+ in the majors are rare.

    Wells is basically that, and will make about $20M per season.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Great fielding CF's who OPS .800+ in the majors are rare.

    Wells is basically that, and will make about $20M per season.
    Dickerson did that last year in Cincinnati by a considerable margin, and yet he has not gotten any votes so far. I think he will surprise a lot of people next year if he gets 600 ABs. I'd be interested in some of the reasons why. I hope both Dickerson and Ramirez will at least make the top 10.
    Last edited by AmarilloRed; 10-21-2008 at 12:39 AM.


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