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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    I bolded the guys I want to add to the 40-man roster:

    Jon Adkins
    Drew T. Anderson
    Drew M. Anderson
    Henry Arias
    Leo Astorga
    James Avery
    Kevin Barker
    Luis Bolivar
    Alvin Colina
    Efrain Contreras
    Shaun Cumberland
    Mike DeJesus
    Misael DeJesus
    Raul De La Cruz
    Chris Denove
    Eric Eymann
    Carlos Fisher
    Ramon Geronimo
    Jerry Gil
    Rafael Gonzalez
    Mike Griffin
    Tonys Gutierrez
    Sean Henry
    Mike Hrynio
    Chris Kroski
    Sam LeCure
    Jake Long
    Justin Mallett
    Matt Maloney
    Robert Manuel
    Junior Martinez
    Ruben Medina
    Carlos Mendez
    Luis Montano
    Gustavo Omana
    Logan Ondrusek
    Adam Pettyjohn
    Denis Phipps
    Juan Rafael
    Yuber Rodriguez
    Jesus Ruiz
    Hector Santana
    Alex Smit
    Humberto Sosa
    B.J. Szymanski
    Justin Tordi
    Phil Valiquette
    Camilo Vazquez
    Pedro Viola
    Terrell Young

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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton View Post
    I think Lecure will be protected by the Reds. it'll be interesting to find out.

    Dorn's got another year, IIRC
    Yes, 2009 is Dorn's last year before he's eligible for the rule five draft.

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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Protecting Carlos Fisher is a must. He would definitely be picked and is good enough to stay on a 25-man roster all season long. Maloney, Viola, Manuel, and Henry are the others I would make sure to protect. I don't see Geronimo and Cumberland being picked and staying on a roster all season long. Same with Lecure.
    IDK I think it's possible both of them could be at risk. Cumberland would be a decent 5th OF who can play all 3 spots and hit a little off the bench plus would be a solid pinch-runner. But I would leave him unprotected if it came down to him and Henry. Geronimo I'll have to take your word on as I haven't really seen him much but I would expect him to at least get some consideration due to his age and the fact he has looked pretty good so far. LeCure I agree with you on.

    *Note* By age I meant his body is likely mature enough to handle being on a 25 man for a whole season.
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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    1. Gutierrez won't make it. I'm not even sure about Henry.

    2. Manuel might be the new Carlos Guevara

    3. Reds might surprise and name "Hammered in Hawaii" Valiquette.

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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    Shaun Cumberland and Tonys Gutierrez, among others, may leave as six-year minor league free agents if they're not added to the 40-man roster.

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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    I'd probably put these into categories.
    Must protect: Fisher, Lecure, Maloney, Viola. [I think Lecure could be taken by a team like Texas. He could be their fifth starter next year.]
    Very much like to protect: Manuel, Valiquette.
    Would be good to protect but not by exposing someone more valuable: Gutierrez, Cumberland, Henry.

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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton View Post
    1. Gutierrez won't make it. I'm not even sure about Henry.

    2. Manuel might be the new Carlos Guevara

    3. Reds might surprise and name "Hammered in Hawaii" Valiquette.
    As soon as I seen his name on there I thought the same, he's definitely a w/c. He's a better bet to stick somewhere than Sergio Valenzuela but that ain't saying much.
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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Shaun Cumberland and Tonys Gutierrez, among others, may leave as six-year minor league free agents if they're not added to the 40-man roster.
    I think Smit is in that boat as well.
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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    I'd probably put these into categories.
    Must protect: Fisher, Lecure, Maloney, Viola. [I think Lecure could be taken by a team like Texas. He could be their fifth starter next year.]
    Very much like to protect: Manuel, Valiquette.
    Would be good to protect but not by exposing someone more valuable: Gutierrez, Cumberland, Henry.
    I think Fisher and Maloney are absolute locks to be protected. Everyone else is gonna depend on what we can do to free up some 40 man spots. Right now 1-2 spots is really about all we have. And Walt doesn't seem to value these types nearly as much as Wayne did. Wayne would collect every guy with any remote talent and try his best to get the best out of them. Walt (and maybe it's experience) doesn't seem to waste time on them unless they are fairly complete. So my guess is he values his major leaguers more and thus we won't see many youngsters put on the 40 man. Walt's the kind of guy you can steal a Johan Santana from and Wayne would be the guy to steal him.
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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    I think Smit is in that boat as well.
    You are correct.

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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I bolded the guys I want to add to the 40-man roster:

    Jon Adkins
    Drew T. Anderson
    Drew M. Anderson
    Henry Arias
    Leo Astorga
    James Avery
    Kevin Barker
    Luis Bolivar
    Alvin Colina
    Efrain Contreras
    Shaun Cumberland
    Mike DeJesus
    Misael DeJesus
    Raul De La Cruz
    Chris Denove
    Eric Eymann
    Carlos Fisher
    Ramon Geronimo
    Jerry Gil
    Rafael Gonzalez
    Mike Griffin
    Tonys Gutierrez
    Sean Henry
    Mike Hrynio
    Chris Kroski
    Sam LeCure
    Jake Long
    Justin Mallett
    Matt Maloney
    Robert Manuel
    Junior Martinez
    Ruben Medina
    Carlos Mendez
    Luis Montano
    Gustavo Omana
    Logan Ondrusek
    Adam Pettyjohn
    Denis Phipps
    Juan Rafael
    Yuber Rodriguez
    Jesus Ruiz
    Hector Santana
    Alex Smit
    Humberto Sosa
    B.J. Szymanski
    Justin Tordi
    Phil Valiquette
    Camilo Vazquez
    Pedro Viola
    Terrell Young
    Isnt Yuber Rodriguez the 16 yr old kid they just signed??? Also I could see Krivsky really plucking a guy off that will hurt bad, Fisher, Maloney and Viola have to be protected IMO.

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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    Quote Originally Posted by icehole3 View Post
    Isnt Yuber Rodriguez the 16 yr old kid they just signed??? Also I could see Krivsky really plucking a guy off that will hurt bad, Fisher, Maloney and Viola have to be protected IMO.
    You're thinking of Yorman Rodriguez.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    I wasn't really sure where to put this, but the Reds have a mess of young players to decide on if they have any future in the organization or not.

    Ryan Hanigan
    Wilkin Castillo
    Paul Janish
    Danny Richar
    Adam Rosales
    Chris Dickerson
    Homer Bailey
    Danny Herrera
    Nick Masset
    Ramon Ramirez
    Josh Roenicke
    Daryl Thompson

    All are young guys who saw playing time in 2008. Dickerson and Hanigan will most likely be on the opening day roster. Masset and Ramirez both made very good cases late in the year. Thompson and Bailey both have high upsides. Castillo can play a lot of positions. It will be interesting to see what the Reds do with that mass of players.

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    Re: How much room would you create on the 40 man roster?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    I wasn't really sure where to put this, but the Reds have a mess of young players to decide on if they have any future in the organization or not.

    Ryan Hanigan
    Wilkin Castillo
    Paul Janish
    Danny Richar
    Adam Rosales
    Chris Dickerson
    Homer Bailey
    Danny Herrera
    Nick Masset
    Ramon Ramirez
    Josh Roenicke
    Daryl Thompson

    All are young guys who saw playing time in 2008. Dickerson and Hanigan will most likely be on the opening day roster. Masset and Ramirez both made very good cases late in the year. Thompson and Bailey both have high upsides. Castillo can play a lot of positions. It will be interesting to see what the Reds do with that mass of players.
    I agree with your assessments, only I'd add Roenicke to the list of locks for the Opening Day roster. I believe there's really only room for one (or maybe two) between the trio of Janish, Richar, and Rosales. Rosales is the worst fielder of the three, but arguably has the most upside with the stick.
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