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  • Zach Cozart

    1 0.78%
  • Chris Dickerson

    8 6.20%
  • Danny Dorn

    7 5.43%
  • Juan Duran

    15 11.63%
  • Carlos Fisher

    0 0%
  • Juan Francisco

    7 5.43%
  • Kyle Lotzkar

    21 16.28%
  • Devin Mesoraco

    4 3.10%
  • Ramon Ramirez

    3 2.33%
  • Yorman Rodriguez

    1 0.78%
  • Josh Roenicke

    3 2.33%
  • Zach Stewart

    6 4.65%
  • Daryl Thompson

    16 12.40%
  • Chris Valaika

    37 28.68%
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Thread: Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

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    Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

    Redszone's Top Prospects

    Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso
    Prospect #2 - Todd Frazier
    Prospect #3 - Neftali Soto
    Prospect #4 - Drew Stubbs
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

    Easily Chris Valaika for me. He can just flat out hit.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

    I'm going with Lotzkar. After the top 3, a case can be made for the next 15 or so in about any order. I took Stubbs at 4 since he probably has the most trade value. Lotzkar as the only TOR starter candidate in this poll probably also has pretty good value so he's next for me.
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    I'm going with Lotzkar. After the top 3, a case can be made for the next 15 or so in about any order. I took Stubbs at 4 since he probably has the most trade value. Lotzkar as the only TOR starter candidate in this poll probably also has pretty good value so he's next for me.
    Maybe I am crazy, but prospects #4-#18 are nowhere near interchangeable.

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    I'm gonna go with Kyle Lotzkar at #5. He was doing some special things in the Midwest League as an 18 year old before going down with an injury. He had a 3.58 ERA and 50 strikeouts in 37.2 innings, an amazing 12.10 K/9. He was especially dominant in his last six starts (21.2 IP, 1.70 ERA, 9 BB/26 K). He's got a great pitchers frame at 6-foot-4 and 200 pounds. His fastball can already tough 95 and has room to improve as his frame fills out. He also throws a curveball and changeup. All three pitches project as plus pitches. He's got true ace potential IMO.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Maybe I am crazy, but prospects #4-#18 are nowhere near interchangeable.
    I've got Hanigan at 18. He's going to be the Reds catcher. I could argue number 4 may never reach that level.
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    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    I've got Hanigan at 18. He's going to be the Reds catcher. I could argue number 4 may never reach that level.
    I have Hanigan at 20, but he isn't nearly the prospect that Stubbs/Valaika are.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

    Gotta be Daryl Thompson here. No way I'm taking Lotzkar over him -- injuries or not.

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    After a great deal of debate I'm going Valaika I went Lotzkar at #4 and I should have voted for Valaika I just can't ignore the fact that this Kid has hit at every place he has gone and still playing SS. I will be putting Lotzkar at #6 on my list

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

    Yorman....pretty close to a no brainer for me.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

    Francisco fifth. Big time production in tough High A league for a young guy.

    Valaika probably a steadier hitter, but Francisco has the big power upside and great arm.

    Lotzkar, Duran, and Mesoraco are fine prospects too, just hard to judge based on current track record. Lotzkar succeeded at Dayton, but only 37 innings.

    Roenicke hasn't had many votes so far, but will be throwing flames for the Reds sometime next year. Had good year at AAA. Still a top ten prospect.

    And remember, at mid-season Thompson was number one on many charts.

    Francisco here, Valaika next on my list.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

    I feel like I have to put one of Dominican bonus babies in the top 5 - so its Duran for me. Having voted that way, Valaika earned his credits this year. I feel very sure he will be a ML regular. I just worry that he'll be a utility guy because he won't stay at SS.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    I'm gonna go with Kyle Lotzkar at #5. He was doing some special things in the Midwest League as an 18 year old before going down with an injury. He had a 3.58 ERA and 50 strikeouts in 37.2 innings, an amazing 12.10 K/9. He was especially dominant in his last six starts (21.2 IP, 1.70 ERA, 9 BB/26 K). He's got a great pitchers frame at 6-foot-4 and 200 pounds. His fastball can already tough 95 and has room to improve as his frame fills out. He also throws a curveball and changeup. All three pitches project as plus pitches. He's got true ace potential IMO.
    I love Lotzkar's arm and pitches and his age - 18. He has everything to learn about pitching. Next year, the key for me will be that he logs 100-125 innings at low A. I don't even care about the performance (so long as his ERA is under 5.00). His health, quality repetitions and development are the focus.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

    Still Lotzkar for me.

    FWIW, I've posted it before, but Valaika's numbers the past two seasons:
    A: .307/.353/.493 (.846 OPS)
    A+: .295/.341/.429 (.770 OPS)
    AA: .301/.352/.443 (.795 OPS)

    Don't get me wrong, he's a decent prospect if he sticks in the middle infield, but I'm not sure how he gets the "all he does is hit" label. The OBP concerns me.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #5 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMcGavin View Post
    Still Lotzkar for me.

    FWIW, I've posted it before, but Valaika's numbers the past two seasons:
    A: .307/.353/.493 (.846 OPS)
    A+: .295/.341/.429 (.770 OPS)
    AA: .301/.352/.443 (.795 OPS)

    Don't get me wrong, he's a decent prospect if he sticks in the middle infield, but I'm not sure how he gets the "all he does is hit" label. The OBP concerns me.
    Outside of a 2 month stretch in Sarasota in 2007, the guy has tore up the ball in the minor leagues.


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