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    Four Young Lions

    Says analyst Bill James, referring to Joey Votto, Edinson Volquez, Jay Bruce and Johnny Cueto, "They have four young lions everybody would love to have."

    Predict the 2009 season numbers for each (I know its early but I'm excited).


    Votto: .275, 30 HR, 95 RBI, 10 SB, 45 2B

    Volquez: 16-12, 3.60 ERA, 175 K

    Cueto: 15-13, 3.25 ERA, 200 K

    Bruce: .280, 38 HR, 110 RBI, 8 SB, 40 2B
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    Re: Four Young Lions

    Votto will be closer to .300 if not over.

    Volquez will be closer to 3.0 era

    Cueto and Bruce look about right.

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    Wow. If they play that well, you should be excited about next year.

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    Votto .285/.385/.515
    Volquez 3.48 ERA 200 IP 210 Ks 1.32 WHIP
    Cueto 3.95 ERA 180 IP 166 Ks 1.29 WHIP
    Bruce .275/.337/.495

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    Quote Originally Posted by UPRedsFan View Post
    Votto will be closer to .300 if not over.

    Volquez will be closer to 3.0 era

    Cueto and Bruce look about right.
    An accurate post IMO. I see Votto as a + hitter, who happens to hit HRs, ala Paul O'Neill or dare I say Will Clark. Volquez will be a rock-solid pitcher, (he's smart enough to figure it all out and dominate). Cueto and Bruce should have learned a lot in'08, and I am expecting both to get better and better. The future is getting brighter...........

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    The doubles seem to be a bit high for Votto and I think he will get to 100 RBIs but the rest looks about right

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    I definitely see Volquez reaching 200 K's more than Cueto. I think Cueto has amazing stuff but I think 2008's success is exactly what a player like Volquez needed to become a top pitcher in the NL.
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    Re: Four Young Lions

    Quote Originally Posted by JayBruceFan View Post
    The doubles seem to be a bit high for Votto and I think he will get to 100 RBIs but the rest looks about right
    I would be careful when predicting stats like runs or RBI, they are highly circumstantial and at this point no one really knows what the reds lineup is going to look like next year with the entire offseason still to come.

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    Quote Originally Posted by JayBruce32 View Post
    Says analyst Bill James, referring to Joey Votto, Edinson Volquez, Jay Bruce and Johnny Cueto, "They have four young lions everybody would love to have."

    Predict the 2009 season numbers for each (I know its early but I'm excited).


    Votto: .275, 30 HR, 95 RBI, 10 SB, 45 2B

    Volquez: 16-12, 3.60 ERA, 175 K

    Cueto: 15-13, 3.25 ERA, 200 K

    Bruce: .280, 38 HR, 110 RBI, 8 SB, 40 2B

    I think Votto will have a higher average, but the rest looks close

    Volquez would have more k's

    I think that's a stretch for Cueto for next year...I'd say era closer to 4.00

    For Bruce, I'd say the dingers are a bit high. Maybe 28-30
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    Votto: .280, .352, .485
    Volquez: 14-6, 3.22, 210ks
    Cueto: 13-10, 4.15, 179ks
    Bruce: .269, .328, .462
    @#$% my @#$%^*&

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    AVG HR RBI
    Votto 296 27 104
    Bruce 280 28 93

    W L ERA
    Volquez 15 6 3.18
    Cueto 15 9 3.73

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    bruce is awesome

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    he might win a batting title

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    What about the thing called the sophmore slump?
    WHEN DOES IT STOP!?!?

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    Re: Four Young Lions

    Votto: .290, 40 2B, 27 HR, 110 RBI, >850 OPS

    Volquez: 15-10, 3.75 ERA, 200+ K

    Cueto: 13-13, 4.25 ERA, 175 - 200 K

    Bruce: .300, 40 HR, 95 RBI - 175 Ks 825 OPS


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