Ramon Ramirez. I fully expect him to be our fifth starter next year; he may even be a good #4 starter. He was pretty impressive in September.
Zach Cozart
Chris Dickerson
Danny Dorn
Juan Duran
Carlos Fisher
Juan Francisco
Kyle Lotzkar
Matt Maloney
Devin Mesoraco
Ramon Ramirez
Yorman Rodriguez
Josh Roenicke
Zach Stewart
Daryl Thompson
Justin Turner
Ramon Ramirez. I fully expect him to be our fifth starter next year; he may even be a good #4 starter. He was pretty impressive in September.
I'm still not exactly sure where I'm gonna vote Ramon Ramirez and Chris Dickerson yet. I like both of those guys...I think Dickerson is gonna develop into into at least an average center fielder with great defense and I see Ramirez as a solid back-end starter, or an above average middle reliever. That's good enough for top ten, however, since they're both a little older than your normal prospect I'm leaning toward voting them in the 10-15 range.
Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 10-26-2008 at 12:25 AM.
I'll be voting Lotzkar until he wins... hopefully this is the last time I have to vote for him.
If Lotzkar wins, that will mean three of the Reds top six prospects are from outside the United States. Yonder Alonso is of Cuban descent, Neftali Soto is from Puerto Rico, and Kyle Lotzkar is Canadian. It also looks like Juan Duran (Dominican Republic) may also crack the top 10, and possibly Juan Francisco (Dominican Republic) too. Plus, Yorman Rodriguez and Ramon Ramirez (Venezuela) will most likely crack the top 15. I love the diversity - it shows the Reds are drafting well outside the U.S. and making a commitment to signing big prospects in the International field. That's huge for a smaller market team like the Reds.
Some of these players have put up some impressive numbers in the minor leagues. Ramon Ramirez has put up numbers like this - 2.67 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, .556 OPS against - in the Major Leagues. It seems like those numbers deserve a bit more respect.
Ya know I only seen Ramon briefly after his callup (and not previously) so does anyone have any info on him. What does he throw? How did his control & command of his pitches look? Does he have any glaring weaknesses?
I mean I haven't had this much trouble selecting a prospect for a spot in a long time. Every time I think of one that I might go with here I seem to come up with 1 fairly big issue of why not to select them at this spot. Ramirez is perhaps the only one I don't know much about.
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Im flip flopping like a John Kerry bobble head on Ramirez and Lotzkar, Im back to Ramirez this time, I really shouldnt be voting in these polls.
If it weren't for his brief ML stint, he'd be a no-doubt top-ten prospect in the organization (amongst RedsZone).
Still, as much as I like Thompson, I'm going with the guy dancing on the sand.Code:Year Age Aff W L W-L% G GS CG SHO GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO HBP WP BFP IBB BK ERA WHIP +----+----+---+---+---+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+------+----+----+----+---+----+---+---+---+-----+---+---+------+-----+ 2008 22 CIN 8 4 .667 21 20 0 0 0 0 126.2 105 47 38 8 30 99 2 6 499 0 0 2.70 1.07
Ramirez throws his fastball in the 89-92 mph range and mixes in a plus changeup and an occasional slider. I remember Rick Sweet saying it's possibly the best changeup in the organization. What makes it so great is the incredible sink on it, I don't know how many times I saw a hitter chase it in the dirt. Right now I think he's got the stuff to be a solid big league starter, but if he can improve that slider he could raise his ceiling a bit. He's not on the level of a Cueto or Volquez, but he's a good pitching prospect IMO.
Ramirez has a career minor league 4.51 with 1.35 WHIP. HR rates are a little high. Combine that with the fact that he'll be 27 next year and I don't see the excitement. The good thing is he's pitched very well out of the bullpen, both in the minors and majors, and that's where I see him ending up. Has good K and BB rates.
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