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    Dunn was just a rental

    this from The Arizona Republic

    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diam...pt-dbacks.html

    Two of the Diamondbacks' highest-profile free agents, second baseman Orlando Hudson and slugger Adam Dunn, have not yet filed, but the club doesn't seem to be holding out much hope of retaining either.

    Dunn, acquired in an Aug. 11 deal with Cincinnati, was never expected to be more than a rental.

    "Adam will have a healthy market," said Moorad, who also represented Dunn. "We were pleased to have him for the last month and a half. I don't believe he fits for us going forward."

    I wouldnt mind grabbing Hudson and moving Phillips to SS, that defense would work for me.


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    "Adam will have a healthy market," said Moorad, who also represented Dunn. "We were pleased to have him for the last month and a half. I don't believe he fits for us going forward."

    This quote doesn't make sense... Moorad 'represents' Dunn but then he speaks from the point of view of Dbacks management? That's gotta be two different people making those quotes, or something... something is off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    "Adam will have a healthy market," said Moorad, who also represented Dunn. "We were pleased to have him for the last month and a half. I don't believe he fits for us going forward."

    This quote doesn't make sense... Moorad 'represents' Dunn but then he speaks from the point of view of Dbacks management? That's gotta be two different people making those quotes, or something... something is off.
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    aaah, okay, thanks blum. The author would have been better served typing 'who has also represented.' He's implying a pretty big conflict of interest there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Re: Dunn was just a rental

    But what about all the hype during September whan Dunn was leading the Diamondbacks into the playoffs and was going to sign for peanuts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    But what about all the hype during September whan Dunn was leading the Diamondbacks into the playoffs and was going to sign for peanuts?
    Any chance Dunn will have to take a pay cut to sign this next season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spring~Fields View Post
    Any chance Dunn will have to take a pay cut to sign this next season?
    Depends on where he's willing to go.

    Some team will give him the money, question of if its a team he wants play for or not.

    If he's only willing to play for Houston, or the Angels, he might find a tough market. If he's willing to play for the Cubs or Red Sox, he might get some moola.

    I think the markets gonna be tight for him.

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    Not like the Bax gave up anything important (to them) for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    I think the markets gonna be tight for him.
    A lot of people on RZ have gone on record saying how the Reds didn't appreciate Dunn's unique skillset, and and how he was mismanaged and misused. (And maybe he was--I would have prefered to have seen him hit higher in the order.)

    But this offseason, we are going to find out just what the rest of MLB thinks of Adam Dunn. And if they line up with the Reds' opinion, maybe some of us on RZ might want to reevaluate our way of thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    A lot of people on RZ have gone on record saying how the Reds didn't appreciate Dunn's unique skillset, and and how he was mismanaged and misused. (And maybe he was--I would have prefered to have seen him hit higher in the order.)

    But this offseason, we are going to find out just what the rest of MLB thinks of Adam Dunn. And if they line up with the Reds' opinion, maybe some of us on RZ might want to reevaluate our way of thinking.
    I don't know about that. Just because a lot of people are wrong about something doesn't make them any less wrong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I don't know about that. Just because a lot of people are wrong about something doesn't make them any less wrong...
    I think that could apply to both sides of the equation.

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    Re: Dunn was just a rental

    It will definitely prove interesting to see where Dunn plays in 2009.


    .... and how much money he's paid to do so....


    .... and if he's a LF, a 1B, or a DH....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I don't know about that. Just because a lot of people are wrong about something doesn't make them any less wrong...
    We already know what J.P. Ricciardi in Toronto thinks of Dunn. Most of us dismissed him as a crackpot. But down deep, I think he probably vocalized the prevailing opinion in MLB--he was just the guy who was dumb enough to say it out loud.
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    I think he'll retire and hit the B.A.S.S Tour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    We already know what J.P. Ricciardi in Toronto thinks of Dunn. Most of us dismissed him as a crackpot. But down deep, I think he probably vocalized the prevailing opinion in MLB--he was just the guy who was dumb enough to say it out loud.
    I agree. I think most people around baseball undervalue Dunn's skill set. It will be interesting to see what Dunn gets compared to the other players around the league -- and how that works out in terms of production for the dollar.

    When Gary Matthew's Jr gets $10M per, Dunn getting in the $12-14M range would be quite the discount. I think Dunn ends up someplace rather unexpected, like Baltimore, Kansas City, or San Fransisco.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.


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