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    Re: Dunn was just a rental

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    IMO, Dunner will be a Met. Moving into the new stadium, they will be one of the few teams willing to unload some bucks for him.
    New York would be an awful, awful place for Adam Dunn to go. If he gets booed in Cincinnati, just imagine how he'd be recieved in Queens....
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    Re: Dunn was just a rental

    Of course he'll be offered arbitration.

    It would be GREAT for the Dbacks if he accepted. He would become a highly tradeable commodity were he to accept (which he won't).
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    Re: Dunn was just a rental

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Jojo (I think) has shown his math which pegs Dunn as around a 2.5-3.0 win player next year. You multiply that out by the cost of a win and figure that players on average lose around half a win of production per year after their peak, and anything more than $10-12M per is going to be overpaying Dunn over the course of his contract.

    Unless he's a DH. IRC, JoJo's math includes a pretty big deduction for defense and rates his bat around 4 wins. Maybe I'm mistaken, but he just may be a 4 win bat w/o the defensive penalty.

    I'm sure GMs wouldn't value him that way and would probably penalize him for limited defensive utility. Not that he'll go there, but a guy like Dunn in the middle of the order in Minnesota as a DH could be the missing piece.
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    Re: Dunn was just a rental

    I find it very hard to believe that GMs will care about Dunn's D, whatever position he plays in 2009.

    GMs will pay Dunn for his bat, as they should.


    I don't think he'll make less money b/c he doesn't play GG caliber D.

    He'll definitely make 10+ for his bat...

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    Re: Dunn was just a rental

    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    Of course he'll be offered arbitration.

    It would be GREAT for the Dbacks if he accepted. He would become a highly tradeable commodity were he to accept (which he won't).
    I don't think Dunn would be a highly tradable commodity. He wasn't a highly tradable commodity last year or the year before that. Now granted, they'd bet trading a full year off Dunn, instead of a partial year.

    However, it's no secret that Dunn has been shopped almost annually by the Reds for at least the last 4 years.

    Edit: Not a criticism of Dunn, I just don't think he's a highly coveted player by GMs.
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    Re: Dunn was just a rental

    Quote Originally Posted by icehole3 View Post
    this was earlier in the baseball season

    going by what Buster Olney said.

    ESPN's Trade Deadline show. They were discussing the lack of interest in Dunn....his flaws, not knowing where he really fits in the order, the money involved...etc. Buster Olney said, "I talked to one GM today that said he wouldn't give Dunn more than a one or two year deal at 5-million a year when he becomes a free agent this offseason."
    I believe a good many of the GM's think of Dunn the same as the Toronto GM did. All it takes is one, though, to give him that huge contract. My guess is Bowden will offer him the big contract Dunn wants.
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    I would offer Dunn 5 yr 50M with a 1M bonus for every year he gets over .270 and 1M bonus for every year he walks more than 120 times and 1M bonus for every year he hits over 40 HR. Then I would let him choose LF or 1B and leave him there and forget about him.

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    Re: Dunn was just a rental

    Quote Originally Posted by buckeyenut View Post
    I would offer Dunn 5 yr 50M with a 1M bonus for every year he gets over .270 and 1M bonus for every year he walks more than 120 times and 1M bonus for every year he hits over 40 HR. Then I would let him choose LF or 1B and leave him there and forget about him.

    I don't think you can give bonuses for things like that any more. You can do it for stuff like games played and MVPs and ASG appearances but not for individual stats.

    Dunn's going to get paid. 40 HRs is 40 HRs.
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    WASHINGTON -- Baseball's annual General Managers Meetings commence Monday in Dana Point, Calif., and Nationals GM Jim Bowden will try his best to improve an offense that finished near the bottom in almost every statistical category in 2008.

    Bowden was not available for comment Sunday, but a National League source said the Nationals are looking for a cleanup hitter and have targeted free-agent outfielder/first baseman Adam Dunn, Brewers first baseman Prince Fielder, Rockies left fielder Matt Holliday and free-agent first baseman Mark Teixeira as possibilities to solve their problem at the No. 4 hole.

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    "OK, I was lying about wanting to compete every year," said Dunn as he signed his Nationals contract. "I like going on those bus trips to leaf country. This way, my Octobers are free. "

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    Re: Dunn was just a rental

    Quote Originally Posted by buckeyenut View Post
    I would offer Dunn 5 yr 50M with a 1M bonus for every year he gets over .270 and 1M bonus for every year he walks more than 120 times and 1M bonus for every year he hits over 40 HR. Then I would let him choose LF or 1B and leave him there and forget about him.
    Ouch.

    Hey Dunn, here's 3 million extra per year if you accomplish something only 17 players have ever been able to do 39 times and 14 of them it was Babe Ruth and Barry Bonds.

    of course you probably didn't mean all in one year.

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    1    Barry Bonds              2001       73     .328      177   
    2    Mark McGwire             1998       70     .299      162   
    3    Mark McGwire             1999       65     .278      133   
    4    Babe Ruth                1927       60     .356      137   
    5    Babe Ruth                1921       59     .378      145   
    T6   Mickey Mantle            1961       54     .317      126   
    T6   Babe Ruth                1920       54     .376      150   
    T6   Babe Ruth                1928       54     .323      137   
    9    Jim Thome                2002       52     .304      122   
    T10  Harmon Killebrew         1969       49     .276      145   
    T10  Babe Ruth                1930       49     .359      136   
    T10  Lou Gehrig               1936       49     .354      130   
    T13  Babe Ruth                1926       47     .372      144   
    T13  Ralph Kiner              1950       47     .272      122   
    T15  Barry Bonds              1993       46     .336      126   
    T15  Babe Ruth                1924       46     .378      142   
    T15  Barry Bonds              2002       46     .370      198   
    T15  Babe Ruth                1931       46     .373      128   
    T19  Chipper Jones            1999       45     .319      126   
    T19  Barry Bonds              2003       45     .341      148   
    T19  Willie McCovey           1969       45     .320      121   
    T19  Barry Bonds              2004       45     .362      232   
    23   Frank Howard             1970       44     .283      132   
    T24  Jason Giambi             2000       43     .333      137   
    T24  Jeff Bagwell             1997       43     .286      127   
    T24  Ted Williams             1949       43     .343      162   
    T27  Ralph Kiner              1951       42     .309      137   
    T27  Barry Bonds              1996       42     .308      151   
    T27  Jeff Bagwell             1999       42     .304      149   
    T27  Gary Sheffield           1996       42     .314      142   
    T27  Mickey Mantle            1958       42     .304      129   
    T32  Norm Cash                1961       41     .361      124   
    T32  Darrell Evans            1973       41     .281      124   
    T32  Carlos Delgado           2000       41     .344      123   
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    T32  Harmon Killebrew         1970       41     .271      128   
    T32  Babe Ruth                1923       41     .393      170   
    T38  Frank Thomas             1995       40     .308      136   
    T38  Carl Yastrzemski         1970       40     .329      128   
    T38  Jim Thome                1997       40     .286      120   
    T38  Barry Bonds              1997       40     .291      145

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    I'll float the question again and see if the response has changed: Do you think the D-Backs will offer him arbitration?
    Heck ya they offer him arbitration.
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    Re: Dunn was just a rental

    He's going to be a National. Bank it.

    And as Reds fans, it should make you cry.
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